USADA vs. VADA : Anti-Doping Duel

[HeroBando]

yes they test proof : https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....ORY-REPORT.pdf

All those tests are conducted by the national agencies, supervised by Wada. Sorry.

Not surprised youre ignoring the second paragraph, which is crux of the matter

[Deevel916]

And you think VADA would have Archived? I don't think so since they are 2 years outdated Vs USADA and WADA and it's wasn't USADA or WADA who's was corrupted but the UCI in those years Doping always have 5 to 8 years ahead in technologies vs Agency.

You can say what you want. In boxing there are 2 outside agencies that have been conducting testing. USADA and VADA. VADA is the agency catching and exposing the cheats. USADA has been off to a shaky start and has been involved in numerous cover ups.

Paulie suggested using VADA in his fight vs Broner and Haymon threatened to cancel the entire card. WHY?

[sicko]

You do realize Vada busted Berto, who was then a client of Conte. Fight canceled, Schaefer very mad. Fortunately such things dont happen with Usada

Yeah because taking down fighters doesn't stack up to taking down the people who provide fighters and athletes with Doping and PROVIDE the athletes with the PED's and DESIGN THESE PED'S RIGHT?

[sicko]

Well, USADA is government funded and this is why there are labs existing (in the US), who are following the WADA code.

NSAC would test for blood, but either the promoter or the boxers have to pay. Their funding isn't enough for blood testing. Only in rare cases they test blood, when there is a su****ious case.

NSAC if they can't afford to imply better testing maybe they should require the fighters PROMOTERS to pay for better TESTING.

This USADA vs WADA thing is SILLY especially on this FORUM because most people when they discuss both they will be Bias. "Mayweather uses USADA...SO USADA IS BAD!" Or "VADA TOOK DOWN BERTO AND PETERSON SO THAT MAKES THEM LEGIT RIGHT?!"

Again I think USADA has more credibility overall while VADA is NEW so NO they don't have that Credibility YET. And NO, A Positive Test for Berto doesn't "MAKE VADA CREDIBLE"

[HeroBando]

Yeah because taking down fighters doesn't stack up to taking down the people who provide fighters and athletes with Doping and PROVIDE the athletes with the PED's and DESIGN THESE PED'S RIGHT?

I dont know what your point is. No agency in boxing has busted a chemist, its beyond their purview. Only one agency has busted cheating boxers and had fights canceled, Vada. The point there was theyre not beholden to Conte if theyre busting his high profile client

[HeroBando]

NSAC if they can't afford to imply better testing maybe they should require the fighters PROMOTERS to pay for better TESTING.

This USADA vs WADA thing is SILLY especially on this FORUM because most people when they discuss both they will be Bias. "Mayweather uses USADA...SO USADA IS BAD!" Or "VADA TOOK DOWN BERTO AND PETERSON SO THAT MAKES THEM LEGIT RIGHT?!"

Again I think USADA has more credibility overall while VADA is NEW so NO they don't have that Credibility YET. And NO, A Positive Test for Berto doesn't "MAKE VADA CREDIBLE"

Usada just has a long record of irregularities, given how recently they got involved in boxing. Only 1 bust, a shot, non Gbp promoted Morales, who was then allowed to compete

[iNixus]

All those tests are conducted by the national agencies, supervised by Wada. Sorry.

Not surprised youre ignoring the second paragraph, which is crux of the matter

I am french, english isn't my first languages so I dont understand everything but yes I agree with this point : In boxing theyre hired by the fighters and their promoters, which is a joke and a massive conflict of interest
That's why i'm saying it should be the WBC-IBF-WBO-WBA who's should agree the WADA protocol for every boxer in the world.

[Scipio2009]

You can say what you want. In boxing there are 2 outside agencies that have been conducting testing. USADA and VADA. VADA is the agency catching and exposing the cheats. USADA has been off to a shaky start and has been involved in numerous cover ups.

Paulie suggested using VADA in his fight vs Broner and Haymon threatened to cancel the entire card. WHY?

Has VADA even tested even 100 samples, yet? Even with random testing throughout training camp, it'd be tricky to point to even 50 fights that VADA was involved in, boxing or otherwise.

[sicko]

I dont know what your point is. No agency in boxing has busted a chemist, its beyond their purview. Only one agency has busted cheating boxers and had fights canceled, Vada. The point there was theyre not beholden to Conte if theyre busting his high profile client

So you would rather a Agency only Focus on Boxers instead of trying to take them ALL DOWN and take down the people who design these DRUGS?

[HeroBando]

So you would rather a Agency only Focus on Boxers instead of trying to take them ALL DOWN and take down the people who design these DRUGS?

Doesnt matter what I want, none of them catch guys like Memo cause they dont have the power to do so. Best they can do is catch dirty fighters and notify the commission, which only Vada has proven willing