Comments Thread For: Marquez Doubts Mayweather Will Take Any Chances

[JulianQ]

I'm not a Mayweather fan but I can't bash him if he does what he does best - and that is slick boxing using the whole ring and counter punching. Why would he choose to stand and trade with Pac when there's an easier way to win?
It's not going to be a war. It will be exciting as it unfolds simply becausen "anything can happen" during a live fight but when all is said and done it will probably disappoint a lots of casual fans.

The only potential for excitement is if either Mayweather starts to catch Pac regularly and clean with power punch counters (and hurts Pac) or if Pac manages to slow Floyd down by attacking the body and pounding relentless on anything he can land on (arms, shoulders, chest).

[KRITKL]

Pretty much what I'm expecting from him as well.

[Brickyardigan]

"Most importantly is who has the better mind in the fight, who launches their attacks better, and uses their defense better, which Floyd Mayweather knows how to do well and Pacquiao must improve on. "


too late for all that.

Marquez told the truth about Pacquiao's limitations and how Floyd is a greater master with a bigger skillset.

Marquez is a master himself but he understood that Mayweather possess a greater patience and insight than he himself was able to find. Marquez beat Pacquiao all 4 fights, and was robbed twice just like he was robbed against Norwood and John. Marquez should only have two losses. ATG the greatest Mexican fighter in my opinion.

[Biolink]

Pot-shot fest by Mayweather is on deck. Mayweather 8-4, 9-3 kind UD.

[TX_BOXNG]

Lol Marquez couldnt even touch him n he didnt risk nothing at all, why would Mayweather suddenly change against his toughest challenge, hopefully Pacman forces him

[QballLobo]

No doubt if Floyd doesn't have to take any chances he won't. That's why Roach is talking about the first few rounds being crucial. If Manny can take those rounds Floyd will have to engage. But Floyd is a master at making guys fight at his pace like he did with Canelo and others. Will be interesting. The first 4 rounds will be intense that's for sure.

[Rath]

For one, without open scoring, u will nvr know if u are ahead 4 pts. May's "strategy" in the 12th rd was to run, plain and simple. Could u call it strategy? Of course.
but, u better be damn sure ur up a lot (see de la hoya v Trinidad) and not care 1 iota bout excitement if ur fights ( which we know floyd don't care).
Floyd is a great fighter, no doubt. But other than his unwillingness to take on those really tough challenges like fighters like SRR and Tommy Hearns did, he doesn't have that killer instinct those fighters had.
it asnt mattered bc Floyds opposition has been so weak that he could just outbox em for 12, and not worry bout giving them the opportunity to stay in the fight.
who knows how that strategy would've worked if he fought Tszyu at 140 or Williams at 147

let me ask you was algierri vs pac an open scoring?- nope

do i know Pac was ahead by 4 points going into 10th? yes

did Pac run hug and dance the night away from 10th to 12th? nope

that's all i am going to say for now.

If you are a boxing purist too answer the rest of my question.

[sterilizer]

Stats were in favor of Floyd by a landslide though, vs. Canelo

I am NOT a Floyd fan, but I'm not hater of him either. I'm just not a fan of super-defensive (cowardly) fighters, such as Floyd, Rigo, Lara, et. al.

Having said that, here's some interesting figures from boxrec.com (Floyd-Canelo fight)


Judge: Dave Moretti 116-112
Judge: C.J. Ross 114-114
Judge: Craig Metcalfe 117-111
Official scorecard.
Unofficial Associated Press scorecard: 119-109 Mayweather
Unofficial ESPN.com scorecard: 120-108 Mayweather
Unofficial Ring Magazine scorecard: 116-113 Mayweather

117-111 sounds not so far-fetched to me. ESPN sounds like they were sold out to Floyd's team. The AP's score seems biased as well, but I have found no reason why they saw that. Maybe they just don't like redheads or Mexicans, IDK lol.

Now, here's the fight stats

CompuBox Punchstats
Total Punches Mayweather Alvarez
Landed 232 117
Thrown 505 526
Pct. 46% 22%
Jabs Mayweather Alvarez
Landed 139 44
Thrown 330 294
Pct. 42% 15%
Power Punches Mayweather Alvarez
Landed 93 73
Thrown 175 232
Pct. 53% 31%

So, according to those punch stats, Mayweather easily won. But if a judge was based on punch stats only, then Castillo should have won an easy unanimous decision over Floyd in the 1st fight, because his punch stats were better than those of Floyd in almost every aspect, except jabs. And judges are supposed to reward the offensive fighter more than the defensive one. Castillo pressed the action the whole fight, from the 1st round, but most specially in the last middle of the fight.

It would be interesting to re-watch that fight, specifically the rounds you gave to Alvarez, to see if he was actually competitive in those, but I really doubt it. He was just too slow and clumsy for Floyd, that particular night. I'm pretty sure that if Canelo had caught Floyd with a 100% clean right to the face, just like Maidana did in their 2nd fight, Canelo would have AT LEAST knocked him down, and probably knocked him out. I think Canelo is the most dangerous foe Floyd has ever fought against, power-wise, and I also think those two pounds --152 as opposed to 154-- made a huge difference for Canelo, he looked like a walking corpse in the weigh-in, totally drained, while Floyd looked 100% in top shape. But even in his best shape, I doubt Canelo would have defeated Floyd, because he is just too slow and has huge stamina issues that seem impossible for him to correct. Just my humble opinion. But of course he will always have a puncher's chance, the very same as JMM did have, and actually took advantage of it, in his 4th fight vs. Manny.

Let me 1st say that I am Flyod fan . I admire his ring intelligence and brilliance . Having said that , I had a chance to THOROUGHLY watch the canelo fight again , and I honestly had it about a draw along with that outcasted ref that also scored it a draw . Flyod truly dismantles some fighters like Guerrero and Marquez , but when I re watched the Canelo fight without the phony commentary I honestly saw a different fight . When I watched it live I was caught in the moment cheering for him ect ect . But when I went back and thoroughly watched it with the volume down , I wasn't impressed at all . Much of the lopsided scoring was based on Canelo's frustrated body language whereas Flyod maintained a look of confidence throughout but really did little in the fight except shoe shine s..t , much of his work was fluff . this fight seemed Aura based . Canelo's body language didnt sell anything but a loss , he looked dejected cause he really couldn't seen to hit Flyod . But Flyod really didn't find him either so he should of sold a different look . I had rounds 2,6,8,9,10,12 for Alverez based on work ethic . I know this won't be a popular post

[Spacey1991]

Mayweather will be aiming to win the fight like always, he'll take the best route possible to try and get the victory.

[SplitSecond]

floyd isn't gonna play it that safe, he's not gonna go on the run either, not until later when he realizes he's getting beat up, or atleast attempt

should be a decent enough scrap as both guys fight back when tagged