Comments Thread For: Marquez Doubts Mayweather Will Take Any Chances

[Alpha & Omega]

Take chances for what? If you can beat someone without having to, then why do so? Do most people realize that almost all of the fighters who "took chances" and were blood and guts brawlers did so because that was the only way they could win? Do I think Floyd could push a little more and stop some guys? Sure. But why play into some other guys only chance and slug with him? That is idiotic. Floyd could have KOed JMM and Cotto easily but he saw no need. I mean sure that is one reason many don't like Floyd and thats fine. I am a boxing purist and I love watching pure technical fighters.

[hitking]

Let me 1st say that I am Flyod fan . I admire his ring intelligence and brilliance . Having said that , I had a chance to THOROUGHLY watch the canelo fight again , and I honestly had it about a draw along with that outcasted ref that also scored it a draw . Flyod truly dismantles some fighters like Guerrero and Marquez , but when I re watched the Canelo fight without the phony commentary I honestly saw a different fight . When I watched it live I was caught in the moment cheering for him ect ect . But when I went back and thoroughly watched it with the volume down , I wasn't impressed at all . Much of the lopsided scoring was based on Canelo's frustrated body language whereas Flyod maintained a look of confidence throughout but really did little in the fight except shoe shine s..t , much of his work was fluff . this fight seemed Aura based . Canelo's body language didnt sell anything but a loss , he looked dejected cause he really couldn't seen to hit Flyod . But Flyod really didn't find him either so he should of sold a different look . I had rounds 2,6,8,9,10,12 for Alverez based on work ethic . I know this won't be a popular post

I agree to an extent. The cheerleading from the SHO crew was borderline disgusting. And it made Floyd appear to be dominating far more than he was.

That said, the fight wasn't a draw. You score boxing on clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense. Even though weren't many clean punches, Floyd had more. Neither fighter was aggressive. Floyd won in the ring generalship department because he got done what he wanted moreso than Canelo. And even though Nelo's defense was good and for the most part overlooked. I think Floyd was clearly better that night defensively.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I've said several times on here that I thought Canelo was more effective against Floyd thsn Maidana. That said, based on properly scoring a fight, it was a very 8-4 type fight, 7-5 at best.

[Evol]

Marquez just picked Floyd to win.

marquez has always said floyd beats manny, even live on espn first take. so ??? ...

[Evol]

floyd fans acting like they dont know what marquez is trying to say.

"why take chances if he can beat his opponent easily"

marquez is not saying for floyd to go out there with his head out to get knocked out. marquez is simply saying floyd will not go for the ko because that will make him more vulnerable so if its a boring fight dont be surpise because thats how floyd fights.

[HeGotPacProblem]

I just rewatched Mayweather-Marquez. Damn Marquez was humiliated in that one. I'm still a big JMM fan but that fight was not a good look for him. He should just fight Pacquiao everytime, he doesn't look good whenever the opponent has an ounce of boxing skill (Norwood, John, Mayweather, Bradley).

No big deal he had to move up 2 weight classes to fight Floyd, he never fought at 144 before that fight.

Floyd may have to take chances if he's down in the early rounds like the Judah fight. It's crucial for Manny to win the early rounds.

[megas30]

Good comeback. Canelo wasn't beating anybody that night. He was a walking corpse who couldn't perform up to his abilities. I DARE Floyd to rematch him without a catchweight. He gets stretched. Floyd has never been a runner and has never had very good legs in the first place. He is a lateral mover who relies on reflexes. This is the reason why he doesn't fight A Level fighters or fighters who can bounce and move well. He KNOWS he could lose. He did not want this fight. Manny is going to expose him and show us all what would've happened had Floyd fought the best for all of these years.

Who are the "A level" fighters he should have fought?

[Rath]

Take chances for what? If you can beat someone without having to, then why do so? Do most people realize that almost all of the fighters who "took chances" and were blood and guts brawlers did so because that was the only way they could win? Do I think Floyd could push a little more and stop some guys? Sure. But why play into some other guys only chance and slug with him? That is idiotic. Floyd could have KOed JMM and Cotto easily but he saw no need. I mean sure that is one reason many don't like Floyd and thats fine. I am a boxing purist and I love watching pure technical fighters.

who was the first fighter known to use clinch in boxing?

Is clinching considered technical?

When is it necessary to clinch?

since you are a boxing purist, which would you like to see - bobbing, weaving, slipping, and sliding or clinching to avoid punches

who do you consider a technical fighter:

one who bob and weave, slip and slide to avoid punches or

one who clinch to avoid punches

how many clinches does it take for you to say it's excessive.

Is ducking way below the belt line technical?

what is the difference between running and lateral/side to side movement?

do you consider running technical

would you consider Floyd action on the 12th round of Floyd vs Maidana 2 a technical move?

If you are ahead by 4 points in the score cards going into the 10th round is it technical to dance hug and run the night away from 10th to 12th round.

What exactly is the meaning of boxing purist?

[HarvardBlue]

I don't think there is any reason for Mayweather to take any chances. As long as he keeps the right distance and counter effectively he should get the decision. Mayweather will get hit but it won't be that much. I was actually surprised how often Pacquiao missed against Bradley II and Algieri.

[rasdun]

And there is nothing wrong with that. Anyone who is expecting this fight to be a war is a ******ed casual who doesn't know **** about boxing.

Mayweather doesn't have to take risks, nor should he.

It won't be a war but it could be very entertaining fight like may v cotto

[rasdun]

who was the first fighter known to use clinch in boxing?

Is clinching considered technical?

When is it necessary to clinch?

since you are a boxing purist, which would you like to see - bobbing, weaving, slipping, and sliding or clinching to avoid punches

who do you consider a technical fighter:

one who bob and weave, slip and slide to avoid punches or

one who clinch to avoid punches

how many clinches does it take for you to say it's excessive.

Is ducking way below the belt line technical?

what is the difference between running and lateral/side to side movement?

do you consider running technical

would you consider Floyd action on the 12th round of Floyd vs Maidana 2 a technical move?

If you are ahead by 4 points in the score cards going into the 10th round is it technical to dance hug and run the night away from 10th to 12th round.

What exactly is the meaning of boxing purist?

For one, without open scoring, u will nvr know if u are ahead 4 pts. May's "strategy" in the 12th rd was to run, plain and simple. Could u call it strategy? Of course.
but, u better be damn sure ur up a lot (see de la hoya v Trinidad) and not care 1 iota bout excitement if ur fights ( which we know floyd don't care).
Floyd is a great fighter, no doubt. But other than his unwillingness to take on those really tough challenges like fighters like SRR and Tommy Hearns did, he doesn't have that killer instinct those fighters had.
it asnt mattered bc Floyds opposition has been so weak that he could just outbox em for 12, and not worry bout giving them the opportunity to stay in the fight.
who knows how that strategy would've worked if he fought Tszyu at 140 or Williams at 147