Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Working on 'Perfect Style' For Mayweather

[GOD-FR33]

I mean in terms of bias, not boxing knowledge.

And internet rep cannot be taken seriously, especially considering that there are threads designed to specifically pump-up the rep of certain fanbases..... I am sure you know that.

You are about as biased as a human being could possibly be.

You are pumping up Pacquiao to be at least one of the greatest fighters ever, and yet writing Mayweather off as a fraud...... left wing extremist regarding one guy, and right wing extremist regarding the other.

The truth is obviously somewhere in the middle.

Floyd is a great fighter. What more do you want from me? Is he one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen? Hell no. He never took the necessary risks, to be great. We do not know how "great" he truly is. He's a HOF'mer. Manny on the other hand, is an ATG and one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen. Keyword, "I" ever seen. He is everything right about the sport of boxing. Me not liking Floyd has everything to do with Floyd. You want to make a fan out of me, then fight the best. It's that simple. Have some respect for the game while doing it. Floyd has been a cancer to the sport for 10yrs now. He is a narcissist and thinks he is bigger than the sport of boxing. He thinks he is better than every great champion and person on earth. I cannot like someone like that. He crossed the line bad mouthing and accusing Manny of juicing, years ago. Manny continued to act like a mature person and sued him. Floyd needs his ass kicked and May 2nd, cannot come soon enough. Karma is a mutha. Floyd is the reason I don't like Floyd. As I said earlier, he is a great fighter and HOF'mer. That is all you'll get from me. He isn't some Whitaker, SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Chavez Sr, type fighter who will fight anyone, anytime, anywhere. He doesn't deserve that type of praise. You know it and I know it.

[brickcityboxing]

They need to be working on Manny being perfect using MANY's style! That's the style that got him here, that's the style that people are saying is going to be effective against Floyd.

He's not going to learn anything in the 8 weeks he has. What if it doesn't work, which is very very likely he's going to have to revert to his original style anyways so he basically missed a camp ... Idk it just sounds bad I hope for their sake they don't try something like that.

He gets made to look ****** and people will begin to wonder what all the hype was about to begin with when Floyd whoops him.
He needs to go balls out with his own style and IMHO land a once in a lifetime punch.

[mathed]

Lot of feints and straight lefts when Floyd tries to shoulder roll. A lot of lateral movement catching Floyd as he tries to slip underneath punches.

[jtommy]

Lot of feints and straight lefts when Floyd tries to shoulder roll. A lot of lateral movement catching Floyd as he tries to slip underneath punches.

According to *****s, Floyd will use the high guard and walk Manny down. He will TKO Manny too is what they are saying.

[aboutfkntime]

Floyd is a great fighter. What more do you want from me? Is he one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen? Hell no. He never took the necessary risks, to be great. We do not know how "great" he truly is. He's a HOF'mer. Manny on the other hand, is an ATG and one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen. Keyword, "I" ever seen. He is everything right about the sport of boxing. Me not liking Floyd has everything to do with Floyd. You want to make a fan out of me, then fight the best. It's that simple. Have some respect for the game while doing it. Floyd has been a cancer to the sport for 10yrs now. He is a narcissist and thinks he is bigger than the sport of boxing. He thinks he is better than every great champion and person on earth. I cannot like someone like that. He crossed the line bad mouthing and accusing Manny of juicing, years ago. Manny continued to act like a mature person and sued him. Floyd needs his ass kicked and May 2nd, cannot come soon enough. Karma is a mutha. Floyd is the reason I don't like Floyd. As I said earlier, he is a great fighter and HOF'mer. That is all you'll get from me. He isn't some Whitaker, SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Chavez Sr, type fighter who will fight anyone, anytime, anywhere. He doesn't deserve that type of praise. You know it and I know it.

Well, you come off like a casual fan, or a pacstain

Here is why......

1) you credit guys just for taking a particular fight, which is ridiculous. Sorry man, but that fighter would actually have to win in order to rate his performance as an achievement. Awarding points for participation is absurd.

2) you are playing the whiney "Floyd is a ducker" fiddle, which is equally as childish/absurd

Your viewpoint is skewed from reality, because you have factored in two issues that are either inaccurate or invalid.

Why dont you guys just keep it real ?

It comes down to one thing.... who you beat, taking into account when you beat them, with a SMALL consideration given to who you did not beat.

Either, apply that IDENTICAL criteria to EVERY fighter, or you are comparing apples with oranges.

You deciding that FLoyd is a coward, and yet Manny is a hero, based on the fact that you like Manny and dislike Floyd..... is why your opinion is skewed. If you disagree with me, then you and I are going to have to debate it like adults. If you want to do this, no problem..... but this is what will happen.

1) I will ask you to state who you think Floyd ducked
2) you will say Margarito, prime Cotto, and prime Pacquiao (if you are really reaching you will say Paul Williams)
3) I will provide 2 links quoting Bob Arum admitting that he avoided Cotto/Mayweather at 140 and 147. We will then debate the Margarito issue, I will tell you to watch Baldomir/Coralles and then ask you to explain how the *** you think that unskilled plodder Margarito could have possibly beaten Mayweather, round in circles, yadda yadda
4) I will pont out that Mayweather is fighting Pacquiao, you will say he waited til Pac got old, actually, I apologise, no you wont, because I rem you saying earlier that you think Pac will win, so you cant discredit Mayweather for taking the fight if you see Pac as favorite. Maybe you will mention Mosley, and I will link you to the "toothache" vid..... and mentioning Williams is absurd, because he never became relevant at welter like Margarito, coz he lost to Quintana.

Anyway, we can debate it sure, and I am happy too, but I know exactly how that will turn out.

Also, when considering "greatness" we need to factor in all things, so the steroid debate will come up...... come on man that is a valid issue, if somebody used steroids to enhance their performance, that is a factor that would need debating....... Amateur competition regards any competitor that avoids testing as automatically guilty.

Listen, lets not do it, ok ?

I would rather agree to disagree.

But my point is this...... after reading your posts, for some time now..... I disctintly get the impression that you strongly dislike Mayweather and you absolutely love Manny...... so a balanced accurate viewpoint is very very unlikely.

Anyway, I apologise for my earlier comment, it was out of line, and only my opinion at the time, I should have kept it to myself.

[aboutfkntime]

Lot of feints and straight lefts when Floyd tries to shoulder roll. A lot of lateral movement catching Floyd as he tries to slip underneath punches.

Why are you so convinced that Mayweather will, and will only, use the shoulder roll?

Mayweather has mastered every single defensive style in the book, and his ability to adapt to his opposition is one of his best strengths.

\Was it the Mosley fight where Mayweather used 3 completely different defensive styles within the first minute of the fight, just to give him different looks, etc ?

I mean, I am hoping that Pac gets in his a55 as well, but I think I am being a little more realistic than you.

[ADP02]

Why are you so convinced that Mayweather will, and will only, use the shoulder roll?

Mayweather has mastered every single defensive style in the book, and his ability to adapt to his opposition is one of his best strengths.

\Was it the Mosley fight where Mayweather used 3 completely different defensive styles within the first minute of the fight, just to give him different looks, etc ?

I mean, I am hoping that Pac gets in his a55 as well, but I think I am being a little more realistic than you.

You are right. Floyd will not be using the shoulder roll as much. Floyd will not but that actually works in Manny's favor since that style is what works for Floyd the best. If FLoyd uses his shoulder roll, Manny can get to him. If he doesn't then its Manny's offense against Floyd's secondary defensive style.

[edboxing]

War Pacman!!!

[Mr.Fantastic]

Floyd is a great fighter. What more do you want from me? Is he one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen? Hell no. He never took the necessary risks, to be great. We do not know how "great" he truly is. He's a HOF'mer. Manny on the other hand, is an ATG and one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen. Keyword, "I" ever seen. He is everything right about the sport of boxing. Me not liking Floyd has everything to do with Floyd. You want to make a fan out of me, then fight the best. It's that simple. Have some respect for the game while doing it. Floyd has been a cancer to the sport for 10yrs now. He is a narcissist and thinks he is bigger than the sport of boxing. He thinks he is better than every great champion and person on earth. I cannot like someone like that. He crossed the line bad mouthing and accusing Manny of juicing, years ago. Manny continued to act like a mature person and sued him. Floyd needs his ass kicked and May 2nd, cannot come soon enough. Karma is a mutha. Floyd is the reason I don't like Floyd. As I said earlier, he is a great fighter and HOF'mer. That is all you'll get from me. He isn't some Whitaker, SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Chavez Sr, type fighter who will fight anyone, anytime, anywhere. He doesn't deserve that type of praise. You know it and I know it.

Great Post!

I used to hate on Pac a lot but dude proved me wrong and wrong again. He is a truly great fighter.

[edboxing]

Finally someone with common sense. Great Post !!!