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  • #41
    Originally posted by morancito
    I'm a real fan but, like most, can be a nuthugger as well. For example, I'm convinced that JCC could have beaten Sweet Pea had they fought 5 years before, at lightweight. In light of the schooling Whitaker gave Chavez when they met, I guess even thinking that JCC could have a chance makes me a nuthugger. I don't know.

    What I'll never do is downsize the merits of those boxers I'm not a fan of, or those who fight my favorite fighters. For instance, I don't get those pac fans who say that Morales, Barrera and JMM are chickens, or are not great fighters, because that only diminishes Pac's wins against them. In that regard I'm not a nuthugger.

    What I wholeheartedly hate is ******ed, unknowledgeable statements that are uttered matter-of-factly, like "Pac is the hardest punching feather ever", or "a prime Tyson would KO Ali" and those kind of ******ities.

    Yeah we'd disagree there, but I wouldn't call you a ********* (i hate that word so im not using it anymore) for stating your opinion...as long as you back it up with some decent reasoning.

    Personally I just think Whitaker was and always would have been a HORRIBLE style matchup for Chavez. He was too strong in the legs, too educated with his jab, too cute defensively for Chavez to ever sustain any real attack on him. I think a fight two years earlier would have been closer, but I couldn't see Chavez outpointing Whitaker. I had Whitaker winning 10-2 in that bout, couldn't imagine Chavez taking many more than 4-5 rounds off Whitaker at any point in their respective careers.

    Whitaker is my favorite fighter of all-time, but then again I was a huge Chavez fan too. It was hard for me to stomach his fights with Taylor and Whitaker however...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Yeah we'd disagree there, but I wouldn't call you a ********* (i hate that word so im not using it anymore) for stating your opinion...as long as you back it up with some decent reasoning.

      Personally I just think Whitaker was and always would have been a HORRIBLE style matchup for Chavez. He was too strong in the legs, too educated with his jab, too cute defensively for Chavez to ever sustain any real attack on him. I think a fight two years earlier would have been closer, but I couldn't see Chavez outpointing Whitaker. I had Whitaker winning 10-2 in that bout, couldn't imagine Chavez taking many more than 4-5 rounds off Whitaker at any point in their respective careers.

      Whitaker is my favorite fighter of all-time, but then again I was a huge Chavez fan too. It was hard for me to stomach his fights with Taylor and Whitaker however...
      At lightweight and from 25 - 29, Chavez hit harder, was much faster and had more stamina. hose three characteristics (especially the last two) are crucial when facing such a skilled, fast, well-schooled boxer like Whitaker. At least, the fight would have been a hell of a lot closer. Pernell must have seen some of that since he wanted no part of JC at light, when I believe he had the chance of facing him.

      I'm well aware that Whitaker was the worst possible matchup for Chavez, at any weight in any time. But JC was so good (people somehow forget this) that he would have made it interesting, at the very least.

      See how I'm a ***********?

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      • #43
        i guess im a mexican boxing fan
        course i like a lot of mexican fighters
        but i def got fighters that i like that arent mexican
        ones even black!!!!

        Lol
        jk
        or am i???????

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        • #44
          Originally posted by morancito
          At lightweight and from 25 - 29, Chavez hit harder, was much faster and had more stamina. hose three characteristics (especially the last two) are crucial when facing such a skilled, fast, well-schooled boxer like Whitaker. At least, the fight would have been a hell of a lot closer. Pernell must have seen some of that since he wanted no part of JC at light, when I believe he had the chance of facing him.

          I'm well aware that Whitaker was the worst possible matchup for Chavez, at any weight in any time. But JC was so good (people somehow forget this) that he would have made it interesting, at the very least.

          See how I'm a ***********?

          heh...i mean you're clearly a biased ********** bastard

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          • #45
            Gringo, did you see the Pernell-Ramirez fight? I did not, and I don't know how could Sweet Pea lose to Jose Luis, who was a very good but somewhat limited fighter. Was it a robbery or did Whitaker just had an off night?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              heh...i mean you're clearly a biased ********** bastard
              who blunders what he says and continually eats his words

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              • #47
                Originally posted by baya
                who blunders what he says and continually eats his words
                LO!!!

                You forgot that, being Mexican, I don't have a word of honor and continually break my promises.

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                • #48
                  I am Lacy Nuthugger is that what this thread is about did I play right?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by raesaad
                    I am Lacy Nuthugger is that what this thread is about did I play right?
                    yes you did, all we want is honesty

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by baya
                      yes you did, all we want is honesty
                      Honesty is my middle name.......And honestly I am still a Lacy nuthugger if thats what people want to call me but I would rather say #1 fan.

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