Comments Thread For: Cotto Slams DuBoef: He Lied, Won't Wait on His Crumbs!

[hectari]

Roc Nation has tried to make offers to Haymon fihters, and they were all rejected.

So...

Yeah, Haymon will not do business with Jay Z, and it stems from Haymon trying to defraud Beyonce. Jay and Haymon used to be cool, that is why you seen Jay in the audience for the Floyd vs Bruseles fight, Haymon basically did some shady sht.

Finally, the allegation that Knowles conspired with Haymon to defraud Beyonce is striking, to say the least. One of the most successful R&B promoters of all time, Haymon has a relationship with Live Nation dating back to the early days of concert-promoter consolidation. Under the SFX banner, Live Nation's previous incarnation acquired 51% of Al Haymon Enterprises in 1999, then made it a controlling interest in 2008, and in April of 2010 acquired the remaining 49% interest, according to SEC filings. Haymon has been active as a promoter within the Live Nation family, listed as co-promoter on Jay-Z tours and recently on Lil Wayne's "I Am Still Music" tour. The reclusive promoter rarely gives interviews and has always operated away from the spotlight, but according to sources, Haymon is still actively part of the Live Nation network of promoters. Thus, in effect, Knowles is saying Live Nation accused one of its own promoters of conspiring with Knowles in the alleged misdealings.

http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...-shed-light-on

[Bardock]

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Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:14 PM)

Cotto addressed Todd's comment in my piece as well. From where I sit it seems TR gave Cotto everything he wanted/asked for. It gave his company literally like 7 UniMas cards to build up his fighters. Top Rank gave Jayson Velez the title shot against Gradovich on HBO when it didn't have to. It arranged for Cotto Promotions to have an HBO Latino card. It offered him $10.5 million for the Canelo fight plus the lion's share of the split. Top Rank has done a lot for Cotto and, from what TR says, Cotto owes TR around $250,000 that he has not repaid.

Lol wait for eaterof(cotto)ass to spin this one

[hectari]

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Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:14 PM)

Cotto addressed Todd's comment in my piece as well. From where I sit it seems TR gave Cotto everything he wanted/asked for. It gave his company literally like 7 UniMas cards to build up his fighters. Top Rank gave Jayson Velez the title shot against Gradovich on HBO when it didn't have to. It arranged for Cotto Promotions to have an HBO Latino card. It offered him $10.5 million for the Canelo fight plus the lion's share of the split. Top Rank has done a lot for Cotto and, from what TR says, Cotto owes TR around $250,000 that he has not repaid.

Todd really liked Cotto listen to all the praise he says about Cotto






Yeah, Cotto ****ed up, dude is pretty scummy and diva like. Todd doesn't open his mouth for nothing, Cotto must have really screwed Todd over big time because Todd never talks **** even when Floyd left years ago he has been nothing but cordial and praise worthy to Floyd, and Floyd loves Todd as well. Todd is the same man who gets pissed off at his own father Bob Arum when Arum gets emotional in interviews, he told Bob to hush and not talk bad on Floyd to get the fight done.

Todd is also the man who discovered Cotto even before Cotto went to the olympics he told Bob we need to sign this guy, Todd went to Cottos kids baptismal as well. what do you expect from Cotto the guy is the same man who punched his own uncle his own blood just because he told Cotto stop being lazy and fat.

[Overhandrite71]

overhandrite71

Cotto is at the end of his career so I don't blame him for doing what's best for him. Nobody is trying to fight for peanuts. Boxing is a brutal sport.

[Mitchell Kane]

Jay Z basically throwing the same type of Offer 50 cent threw at Pacquiao, with that concert **** lol.

50 cent and Pac deal was to do concerts in the Philippines, Jay Z is going to do concerts in Puerto Rico with Cotto?

Jay will not benefit financially from putting a concert with Cotto's unknown artists unless Cotto has a really really talented singer who can be a star.

I doubt any of that pans out, Jay Z is desperate now, because Haymon is the man right now with over 200 fighters in his stable, and Haymon hates Jay Z worse because of the Beyonce situation, Floyd Mayweather used to be tight with Jay Z but cut ties with him when Haymon came on board as Floyds manager, he will never ever do business. Bob Arum and Haymon can be worked out but now Jay Z has created another enemy with Todd and Top Rank.

Gary Shaw already left Jay Z after 2 weeks signing his roster over to him and taking it back.

Who can Jay Z really make fights with? Andre Ward is not going to get that chavez jr fight since Chavez signed with Haymon and Ward is with HBO and Jay z.

This is just a weird situation, only thing I can think of is Jay offered Cottto a 3 or 4 fight deal worth 50 million or something like that, he offered Broner huge money only for Broner to turn it down since Haymon hates Jay Z.

Haymon is the power guy here his fighters (except Lucas Mattysse who left him to show loyalty to Golden boy) are super loyal to him and will obey his every command. even vacate titles and abandon big money offers from Roc Nation.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what the numbers are for this deal.

Roc Nation has made a lot of different attempts to make some big splashes in boxing and they haven't succeeded much, not with Haymon's fighters, and not with the short-lived marriage to Gary Shaw.

They've signed two prominent boxers...one, Ward, who was trying for years to leave his promoter, who then recently died, and one, Cotto, who was a promotional free agent working on a "handshake" deal with another promoter.

Those two were available...for a price...which Roc Nation paid. We don't know how much they paid for them, or what the return will be on the investment.

They haven't actually gotten any fights done with Ward yet, and we don't know how much they spent, or overspent, on Cotto...and what all they promised him outside of boxing.

[Tay Roc]

If your uncle threw a brick at you and it went through your car window, wouldn't you want to kick his ass? Be honest homie.

So what's the excuse for beating his wife?

[Tay Roc]

Dan Rafael's perspective...
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Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:14 PM)

Cotto addressed Todd's comment in my piece as well. From where I sit it seems TR gave Cotto everything he wanted/asked for. It gave his company literally like 7 UniMas cards to build up his fighters. Top Rank gave Jayson Velez the title shot against Gradovich on HBO when it didn't have to. It arranged for Cotto Promotions to have an HBO Latino card. It offered him $10.5 million for the Canelo fight plus the lion's share of the split. Top Rank has done a lot for Cotto and, from what TR says, Cotto owes TR around $250,000 that he has not repaid.

Cotto fans should just take the L and move on. They're all looking like Big Javi on this one.

[Chiboxing123]

10,500,000 isn't crumbs Cotto. What exactly is roc nation gonna do for cotto? Fighting k9 is not gonna interest nobody.

[hectari]

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what the numbers are for this deal.

Roc Nation has made a lot of different attempts to make some big splashes in boxing and they haven't succeeded much, not with Haymon's fighters, and not with the short-lived marriage to Gary Shaw.

They've signed two prominent boxers...one, Ward, who was trying for years to leave his promoter, who then recently died, and one, Cotto, who was a promotional free agent working on a "handshake" deal with another promoter.

They haven't actually gotten any fights done with Ward yet, and we don't know how much they spent, or overspent, on Cotto...and what all they promised him outside of boxing.

Ward is screwed because he wanted to have several tune ups on HBO but HBO said no way jose, they only want to give him fights against real challenges no more tune ups especially for what Ward wants financially.

HBO also wants Ward to move up in weight which he refuses to do at this point. There is no money fight for him unless he rematches Carl Froch or lands a Chavez fight.

The only fight left for him of substance and legacy is to go up to 175 to fight Kovalev for the belt.

[hectari]

If your uncle threw a brick at you and it went through your car window, wouldn't you want to kick his ass? Be honest homie.

Cotto punched and spit on his uncle before his uncle threw the brick dude, why you leaving that part out?

And reveal the reason why Cotto punched his uncle, because Cotto is a diva and acted like a sensitive brat, his Uncle is very strict and didnt want Cotto to be lazy, and Cotto cussed him out and punched him, his Uncle, Cotto should respect his elders man and thats blood, why would you punch your dam uncle just because he wanted you to bust your ass in the gym?

Cotto has fired and hired many trainers this guy is emotional and sensitive man.

and im a cotto fan too, but I gotta keep it real.