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  • Originally posted by MrRolltide91 View Post
    was you there?
    nah I wish... a friend of mine was and told me to look for this video hahahaha ima def try and go to his next one coming up.

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    • they look and sound like Viejas chismosas! he said she said! Real simple "champ"
      fight or vacate!!!! GGG is looking for you cotto! you can run but you cant hide!!!

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      • Let's see what Roc Nation does with Cotto, he must of got a great deal by them for him to sign with him. Cotto went where the money is, but not where there is a lot of experience by a promoter.

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        • True but I think Roc Nation will be a legit player in boxing. Say what you will about Al Haymon but the only people that seem to have a problem with him are not his fighters. I think Roc Nation appears to be attempting a similar strategy of taking care of the talent first...........Ward and Cotto are pretty deliberate guys and I'm sure that after years under Goosen/TR respectively, they were very careful abou their choice.

          If Roc Nation and Al Haymon or PBC do business together, I think this will be good for boxing. Top Rank is losing their A-List almost as quickly as contracts expire. Golden Boy is in wreckage........

          A changing of the guard is a good thing............

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          • This deal does not prevent the Canelo fight who is promoted by GB, it does not prevent the GGG fight who is promoted by K2. The only fights it my keep from happening are Bradley and Rios, but even those fights unfortunately can't be discounted because when Tod Debofe was bad mouthing Cotto to Boxingscene yesterday he said he won't keep those fights from happening. For all of you calling Cotto ungrateful it was Tod who bad mouthed Cotto first, Cotto usually doesn't speak about behind the scenes issues but Tod opened that door yesterday.
            Last edited by Fantasiabruja; 03-05-2015, 01:05 PM.

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            • Jay Z basically throwing the same type of Offer 50 cent threw at Pacquiao, with that concert **** lol.

              50 cent and Pac deal was to do concerts in the Philippines, Jay Z is going to do concerts in Puerto Rico with Cotto?

              Jay will not benefit financially from putting a concert with Cotto's unknown artists unless Cotto has a really really talented singer who can be a star.

              I doubt any of that pans out, Jay Z is desperate now, because Haymon is the man right now with over 200 fighters in his stable, and Haymon hates Jay Z worse because of the Beyonce situation, Floyd Mayweather used to be tight with Jay Z but cut ties with him when Haymon came on board as Floyds manager, he will never ever do business. Bob Arum and Haymon can be worked out but now Jay Z has created another enemy with Todd and Top Rank.

              Gary Shaw already left Jay Z after 2 weeks signing his roster over to him and taking it back.

              Who can Jay Z really make fights with? Andre Ward is not going to get that chavez jr fight since Chavez signed with Haymon and Ward is with HBO and Jay z.

              This is just a weird situation, only thing I can think of is Jay offered Cottto a 3 or 4 fight deal worth 50 million or something like that, he offered Broner huge money only for Broner to turn it down since Haymon hates Jay Z.

              Haymon is the power guy here his fighters (except Lucas Mattysse who left him to show loyalty to Golden boy) are super loyal to him and will obey his every command. even vacate titles and abandon big money offers from Roc Nation.

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              • Originally posted by ssc73 View Post
                If Roc Nation and Al Haymon or PBC do business together
                Roc Nation has tried to make offers to Haymon fihters, and they were all rejected.

                So...

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                • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
                  Roc Nation has tried to make offers to Haymon fihters, and they were all rejected.

                  So...
                  Doing business together and attempting to sign fighters are two different things. I suspect the former will occur if Roc Nation sticks around.

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Doing business together and attempting to sign fighters are two different things. I suspect the former will occur if Roc Nation sticks around.
                    It wasn't just signing fighters, they won the Quillin purse bid.

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                    • Dan Rafael's perspective...
                      http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...ith-dan-rafael

                      Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:14 PM)

                      Cotto addressed Todd's comment in my piece as well. From where I sit it seems TR gave Cotto everything he wanted/asked for. It gave his company literally like 7 UniMas cards to build up his fighters. Top Rank gave Jayson Velez the title shot against Gradovich on HBO when it didn't have to. It arranged for Cotto Promotions to have an HBO Latino card. It offered him $10.5 million for the Canelo fight plus the lion's share of the split. Top Rank has done a lot for Cotto and, from what TR says, Cotto owes TR around $250,000 that he has not repaid.

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