Why are some boxers allowed to cheat and earn respect as being "crafty" "Skilled"

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  • D4thincarnation
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hype job
    It's clear as day and is first on the list of rules for this sport.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing



    Why are certain fighters... *cough Ward* *cough Mayweather but not nearly as much as Ward* **Cough cough WARD** allowed to get away with this shiz?! He's praised on here as this slick skilled amazingly talented guy, but all I see is a cheat who spoils fights, one of his great moves is the mastered "jab and grab" technique he does... he literally jabs and rushes in for a clinch. The Kessler and Froch fights were horrendous, this guy's tactics are a disgrace to the sport, no non American would get away with the trash he does.

    I'd love to see him fight GGG at a neutral venue with a non American ref who does not condone cheating like Ward does.

    Ward will be stripped and exposed if he's not allowed to cheat, he'll have to fight which means he'll most likely do the Booty Dew when facing the monster puncher that is GGG.

    Exactly, they cheat and get away with it.

    Wlad does the same thing in many of his fights, but at least he gets called out on it.

    Can't understand why Ward and Mayweather get passes, and even worst praised for their cheating.

    It destroys the sport.

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    • Rath
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      #32
      Originally posted by Hype job
      It's clear as day and is first on the list of rules for this sport.

      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing



      Why are certain fighters... *cough Ward* *cough Mayweather but not nearly as much as Ward* **Cough cough WARD** allowed to get away with this shiz?! He's praised on here as this slick skilled amazingly talented guy, but all I see is a cheat who spoils fights, one of his great moves is the mastered "jab and grab" technique he does... he literally jabs and rushes in for a clinch. The Kessler and Froch fights were horrendous, this guy's tactics are a disgrace to the sport, no non American would get away with the trash he does.

      I'd love to see him fight GGG at a neutral venue with a non American ref who does not condone cheating like Ward does.

      Ward will be stripped and exposed if he's not allowed to cheat, he'll have to fight which means he'll most likely do the Booty Dew when facing the monster puncher that is GGG.
      Up until now you don't even know the meaning of SWEET SCIENCE?

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #33
        Let me add the worst offender I have ever seen, Carlos Molina.

        What he does consists entirely of cheating I.E pushing, holding, and if he should find the opportunity to throw a punch it is only secondary to using illegal tactics to spoil his opponents gameplan.

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        • Rath
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          #34
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          Clinching and holding are two different things.

          Learn the difference before trying to insinuate cheating.

          I'll admit that it's up to the ref to also make the distinction and some refs are terrible at it.

          It's not the fighter's fault though. They're going to do whatever it takes to win the fight.
          That is why they call it The Gentlemen's Sport

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          • bojangles1987
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            #35
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Exactly, they cheat and get away with it.

            Wlad does the same thing in many of his fights, but at least he gets called out on it.

            Can't understand why Ward and Mayweather get passes, and even worst praised for their cheating.

            It destroys the sport.
            Wlad doesn't get called out on it. He had the worst performance in HW title history against Povetkin and didn't get warned, let alone penalized.

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            • sugarsmosley
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              #36
              Originally posted by #1Assassin
              better question is why are some fighters praised for being rough and willing to win by any means while others are simply cheats?

              but to answer your question ward is highly skilled (obviously) while also having a penchant for stretching and at times simply breaking the rules. one doesnt neutralize the other. he is like duran, holyfield or hopkins in that regard.

              its getting amusing how people keep claiming ward gets no backlash for his tactics, i cant think of any fighter who gets more **** for being dirty.

              i think people are just mad because they used to say he was too much of a stylist, that he couldnt get down and dirty when need be. then he showed that he can rough up the best of them and all of a sudden people pretend like being dirty is the only reason for his success. just my opinion.
              Is this a joke? surely you're joking.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #37
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                Let me add the worst offender I have ever seen, Carlos Molina.

                What he does consists entirely of cheating I.E pushing, holding, and if he should find the opportunity to throw a punch it is only secondary to using illegal tactics to spoil his opponents gameplan.
                Yeah, thankfully the pedo is pretty much irrelevant now. Vazquez is horrendous as well, him and Wlad are the absolute worst.

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                • joseph5620
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LesMoonves BOSS
                  Joe Louis. Billy Conn.
                  The weight difference between those two was nowhere near what Ward-Klitschko would be. If you didn't know that it says a lot about you.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #39
                    the worst is wladimir with his wrestling, it looks like he's trying to snap you in half

                    another one is continuous lowblows, like garcia on matthysse, nvm the core, garcia broke lucas down with nutshots

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      Wlad doesn't get called out on it. He had the worst performance in HW title history against Povetkin and didn't get warned, let alone penalized.
                      I mean he get called out on it on here.

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