De La Hoya vs Pacquiao?

[wonder187]

All he was sayin was they did it too late they should've pushed fluids earlier

[Reloaded]

ODH's fight right before pacquiao was steve forbes at 150 lbs. I don't really see the problem with the fight at 147 cuz pacquiao was coming up from 135 lbs. They met in the middle.

Off course you wouldnt see a problem lol .

Oscar was used to being 20 pounds bigger and had not been at 147 for over 10 yrs , he looked like sht at 150 and didnt make the weight which was disclosed by Roach .

But all this dont matter does it , Manny been weighing 144 on fight night since his 130 days , Oscar 160-165 on fight night for 10 yrs , both at 147 on fight night who benefits .

Manny fans are just so ignorant to weight .

[Spray_resistant]

Off course you wouldnt see a problem lol .

Oscar was used to being 20 pounds bigger and had not been at 147 for over 10 yrs , he looked like sht at 150 and didnt make the weight which was disclosed by Roach .

But all this dont matter does it , Manny been weighing 144 on fight night since his 130 days , Oscar 160-165 on fight night for 10 yrs , both at 147 on fight night who benefits .

Manny fans are just so ignorant to weight .

Oscar chose the weight to not make it seem like the cherrypick it was intended to be. Manny and his team can't be responsible for Oscar not preparing properly.

[ADP02]

Off course you wouldnt see a problem lol .

Oscar was used to being 20 pounds bigger and had not been at 147 for over 10 yrs , he looked like sht at 150 and didnt make the weight which was disclosed by Roach .

But all this dont matter does it , Manny been weighing 144 on fight night since his 130 days , Oscar 160-165 on fight night for 10 yrs , both at 147 on fight night who benefits .

Manny fans are just so ignorant to weight .

Reloaded makes himself out to be the CW hater unless Floyd does it. Then he will say "it's different".

[creekrat77]

What has been said already in this thread, Oscar meeting Pacquiao at 147 was more then fair. It was supposed to be a cash grab easy win, while Manny was doing Bob a favor by accepting the mega fight even though he had little chance of winning. Roach though knew before hand that Oscar's reflexes were shot. He knew that with Manny constantly moving to the right of Oscars left hand, disarming him, and utilizing his own quick left would give Manny the edge. Also noted that Oscar had very little power in his right hand, and that Roach new Manny's straight left would be too much.

[fighter1234]

Oscar wasn't even drained he just got his arse kicked by the superior fighter.

People have done a good job of crapping on that great win.

Look at that zombie face

[johnm is...]

Oscar wasn't even drained he just got his arse kicked by the superior fighter.

People have done a good job of crapping on that great win.

You can't seriously believe that.

[Hype job]

You can't seriously believe that.

He started camp like 150 something, he's never mentioned being drained. Just got outclassed.

[ADP02]

You can't seriously believe that.

If you are interested, here are a couple of good reads on what happened. Even days before the fight and after the fight, they say they were in great shape and weight was not the culprit.


Here are some points.

The biggest issue appeared to be that Oscar had issues with southpaws. He was having similar issues in training camp against certain sparring partners but (eg. Valero and Ortiz) were let go too early.
So Oscar was confused against Manny's style. Also, Manny hit Oscar clean several times early on in the fight and that was a wrap as he was also dazed.


"To ensure that he made weight, and that he was able to keep up with the pace and persistence of Pacquiao, de la Hoya plowed through an intense, eight-week training camp in Big Bear, California, but not before a pair of "mini-camps" in Puerto Rico."

"This training camp started roughly about four months ago," Oscar says. "I do mini-camps in between so that I'm always in pretty good shape"

"Oscar started camp in Big Bear at 156 with eight weeks of training ahead of him. Two weeks before fight night, Oscar was slim and trim at 145 pounds. Pacquiao has never fought heavier than 135."


"The diet was proper ..... Oscar was basically coming to the gym in top shape at 152 and leaving at 145 after 1 hour 20 minute workout."

http://www.boxingscene.com/oscar-de-la-hoyas-conditioning-coach-speaks-out--17810

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/golden-boy-training

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[Doctor_Tenma]

Any decent welter would have beaten DLH that night.