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  • #81
    Speculation, speculations and more speculations...these kinds of Barbershop talk is just that, good for arguments and talking. Don't like both sides using the TALK-LEVERAGE in who is better.

    This is not an oratorical debate nor it is a trial...the sport they participate is the dangerous. This is only good for the mythical fights like Rocky Marciano vs Muhammad Ali types of guy conversations...fights that would never happen but fun to talk about.

    Fortunately Mayweather and Pacquiao would eventually fight.

    So if both camps of Mayweather and Pacquiao would go in a pissing match then there's no resolution. Logic and rational cannot go hand in hand with what's on the ring many times - that's why they had to fight even though it's 5 years too-late.

    Going back to the adage that Mike Tyson would often say, "Everybody's got a plan until they get hit in the mouth".

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    • #82
      Wait wait wait, so when the fight would actually matter, Pacman would lose. But now, a half decade later and a brutal destruction and many known vulnerabilities later, it's time?? LOL!!

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      • #83
        Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
        You won't get this I know, but you musta missed something growing up? Its called Dignity !

        Pac didn't take steriods to better himself from living on the streets fighting to get something to eat, Pac bettered himself from fighting with his fists. He came to the top of the heap from his HEART.

        Pac has proven he never took steriods, and took the Mayweathers to task in court and the Mayweathers LOST.

        JR however INSULTED the Dignity of Pac and I don't blame him one bit. I was happy he threw it in Jr's face, and didn't give in to the demands of JR.

        Ever had your Dignity insulted ? Did you go down to the dudes level and face it there or did YOU ????????
        stop being a ****puller Pac has a wife for him to do that. you want to talk about how much dignity Pac has the guy cheats on his wife signs 2 boxing contracts doesn't pay his taxes has children with other women ect.Pac is not god he will never be god stop trying turn the guy into some image you can worship. as bad as the Mayweather family is at lest they don't hide who they really are we know they are nothing but sell outs uncle toms. Pac does hide who he really is and one day he will be expose
        Last edited by solo20; 03-01-2015, 11:49 AM.

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        • #84
          5 Years ago Pacquiao was even money to win this bout, today Pacquiao is 9/4

          Kinda flies in the face of what Roach is saying.

          5 years ago I thought this was a 90/10 fight in Pacquiao's favor. Today it is a 65/35 fight in Pacquiao's favour.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
            You won't get this I know, but you musta missed something growing up? Its called Dignity !

            Pac didn't take steriods to better himself from living on the streets fighting to get something to eat, Pac bettered himself from fighting with his fists. He came to the top of the heap from his HEART.

            Pac has proven he never took steriods, and took the Mayweathers to task in court and the Mayweathers LOST.

            JR however INSULTED the Dignity of Pac and I don't blame him one bit. I was happy he threw it in Jr's face, and didn't give in to the demands of JR.

            Ever had your Dignity insulted ? Did you go down to the dudes level and face it there or did YOU ????????
            Pac has proven he never took steroids ? When did this happen ? And don't start that he won the defamation lawsuit or he JUST RECENTLY started doing random drug testing nonsense . I know it was never proven he did use PED's , but u said he proved he never did . I'm curious ... how and when was this . By the way Pac did give in to Floyd's demands . 60/40 split , drug testing , who comes out first , the negotiations were on Floyd's terms .

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            • #86
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              He had doubt but before he was saying Manny had Floyd on the run. I personally never and still don't believe Manny can beat Mayweather. Doesn't matter what Roach says.
              I am a Pac fan and agree that Mayweather has the style to make Pac not effective, but I also feel Pac has a style that could make Floyd need to work more than he ever has had to.

              I have Floyd as the favourite based on skills.

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              • #87
                lets all remember roach said this .. all pac fan boys been saying how floyd waited til pac slipped to fight him.. when the one that has slipped actually is floyd (according to roach)

                and check out the double standard. .can you imagine if floyds camp says "five years ago manny wins, but not now.."

                i can just hear it "you see ! THAT'S why he ducked "

                the type of sht mannys camp can say and do and not get any backlash for it is unbelievable.

                mannys the only one that can refuse a blood test and actually be supported!

                arum in 2009 said floyds insistence on random tests was "harassment of pacquiao "

                manny the only guy allowed to use superstition as an excuse to not fight

                ...remember these words by roach .. any excuse when manny loses direct them to this article

                "In the end," Roach says, "if we had given in on the blood testing, it would have been like giving Mayweather the first round. Why would we do that?" (February 2010)

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by SweetScience View Post
                  Roach has been trying to motivate Pacquaio by saying stuff like this.

                  No need to talk when the fight has been signed.
                  if this was floyd sr saying "five years ago manny wins, but not now"..would that also be him attempting to motivate his son?..

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Rath View Post
                    What the ? ? ? is this really you talking? tell me you are just kidding and I will pretend I did not read this post.
                    You are suggesting that I put it in my sig forever because I said Floyd will win but yet when I asked you to do the same if Floyd wins because you are siding with Pacquiao and then you come with an excuse on why you shouldn't do. Don't make a suggestion if you are not willing to hear one back. You say you think Floyd will win but yet you're on every thread debating posters who actually believe Floyd will win because you don't like how easy to make it out to be for Mayweather? Stop crying because people think Pacquiao has no chance. If you feel confident Mayweather won't shut him out then accept the bet.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-01-2015, 01:01 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                      Roach is playing mind games, its clear when you think like chess and not checkers
                      if floyd sr said this "five years ago manny wins, but now".. will you just brush it off as mind games or just say "you see you see! Thats why he ducked"

                      you pac fans are unbelievable man. damn

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