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  • Bolopunch68
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    #41
    Originally posted by creekrat77
    I don't think people realize how hard this fight is going be for Floyd to win with what he is accustomed to in the ring. He is going to have to hurt Pacquiao to dictate the fight in any way. I have a feeling this fight will look like Cotto vs Pacquiao. It'll be close in the beginning but Pac's speed, power, and punch volume will simply overwhelm the aging Mayweather. Floyd needs to sit down on his punches and push the offensive IMO to suppress and disarm Pac's power.
    I agree, majority of Floyds fight are against orthodox style perfect for his shoulder roll. Majority of his fights are against slow fighters with no head movements or footworks like PAC. They are bigger than Floyd but a lot slower compare to Floyds speed.

    Manny fights are against right hander or orthodox so he is used to fighting orthodox stance. Manny fought a lot of brawlers and slow fighters as well. But the difference is Mayweather is not used to fighting a lefty with head movements and good footworks with power on both hands like Manny. So right there advantage goes to Manny. Only advantage for Floyd is his reach which can be negated with head movements and side to side movements. We all know Manny doesn't gassed out when he focus on his training.

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    • TrueBoxingFan23
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      #42
      Originally posted by El-blanco
      Yes you can. An inferior southpaw fighter with speed made Floyd look like crap for four rounds in his prime. Now he's facing an aging, great fighter in his twilight.
      You better go watch the fight again! It wasn't for 4 ends. I had it 2 and 2, and even Roach said he couldn't watch the old fights because yes he got older, but has evolved so much since then. That was 11yrs ago

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      • El-blanco
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        #43
        Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23
        You better go watch the fight again! It wasn't for 4 ends. I had it 2 and 2, and even Roach said he couldn't watch the old fights because yes he got older, but has evolved so much since then. That was 11yrs ago
        Lol damn I'm old, it was that long ago? I had it four zip any time I've watched.

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        • TrueBoxingFan23
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          #44
          Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
          If you studied the Algieri fight, Pacquiao did t give a crap about his power, and went all out for the KO. Algieri was too cautious and defensive, so he came in to open him up. Just like GGG/Murray. When you taste your opponents power, and realize they have nothing for you, and they have a high and tight shell, you give them some openings to get them to open up.

          PAC brings dimensions Floyd's never been in the ring with, and vice versa, but due to styles, I think Manny will be more comfortable, and steal a bunch of rounds. Manny is the only fighter that Floyd's faced that can steal rounds from him through 12 rounds, and not just the first 1 or 2.

          PAC brings different rhythyms as well. He can dart in and out, unlike most of Floyd's opponents. That foot work is gonna be trouble for Floyd.

          And I'm not saying it will be easy for PAC to beat Floyd. Hell no it won't. I'm saying, due to styles, Pac's gonna beat him.

          And no, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Floyd beat PAC. Who the hell would?

          And about the right hand thing, so what? Everyone's that consistently landed right hands on him have thrown combos, and was willing to get into the danger zone with PAC.
          Did you just compare or put Floyd on the same lvl as Alfieri? And Floyd has more power than him. All Algieri did was throw tap jabs all night! But when he did throw the right he landed but it didn't mean ****! I also think you guys are sleeping on Floyd power. If he can make 160lbers respect him, why the hell do you think PAC wouldn't? It will be a great fight, but the only chance I give PAC is if he catch Floyd and really hurt him, but like I said before, I've seen that boy turn into a beast when the occasion arose

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          • Dan Gutierrez
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            #45
            The Great Manny Pacquiao has 101% chance to beat Miss Flor Mayweather Jr. This will be the most enjoyable moments for the Pacman. He will enjoy every minute he spend in the ring giving Miss Flor Mayweather Jr. the beating he deserves.

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            • Bolopunch68
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              #46
              [QUOTE=Isaac Clarke;15416788]Speed. He has fast feet and hands. Fast footwork and good footwork aren't one and the same.

              Watch the beginning of this video for examples of Pacquiao's poor positioning.
              [/QUOTE

              Like I said, with the exception of Marquez. Marquez studied him from the first fight until he knocked him out. The footage you showed means nothing because after that brutal KO he learned not to over extend. Reason for him to over extend most of the time against Marquez was he tried so hard for that KO. When Manny planted his feet and extend his left hand he still in the position to avoid the counters (Bradley fight 1 & 2). Against Rios he uses his footworks to pivot to his right after throwing his straight left over and over. Against Algiere, he was always in the position and sat on his punches hence the 5 KDs (I only counted 5 legit KDs)

              If you think Manny can't adjust and do the same thing he did against Marquez, then you really looking for his particular mistakes instead of his attributes.

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              • chico malo ali
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                #47
                Nacho is being nice.cause pacroid has about a 10% shot of beating money.

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                  #48
                  [QUOTE=Bolopunch68;15416820]
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  Speed. He has fast feet and hands. Fast footwork and good footwork aren't one and the same.

                  Watch the beginning of this video for examples of Pacquiao's poor positioning.
                  [/QUOTE

                  Like I said, with the exception of Marquez. Marquez studied him from the first fight until he knocked him out. The footage you showed means nothing because after that brutal KO he learned not to over extend. Reason for him to over extend most of the time against Marquez was he tried so hard for that KO. When Manny planted his feet and extend his left hand he still in the position to avoid the counters (Bradley fight 1 & 2). Against Rios he uses his footworks to pivot to his right after throwing his straight left over and over. Against Algiere, he was always in the position and sat on his punches hence the 5 KDs (I only counted 5 legit KDs)

                  If you think Manny can't adjust and do the same thing he did against Marquez, then you really looking for his particular mistakes instead of his attributes.
                  1- algieri sucks lol. 2- yes pac still does over extend. Watch Bradley 2. He still reaches out and still drops his left hand all day long

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                    #49
                    [QUOTE=HanzGruber;15416841]
                    Originally posted by Bolopunch68
                    1- algieri sucks lol. 2- yes pac still does over extend. Watch Bradley 2. He still reaches out and still drops his left hand all day long
                    Floyd also has great vision he will see manny dropping that left when he throws that pitty pat jab he uses floyd will counter him. And manny fans throwing up cotton jab is silly he has more of a stiff hard jab rather than a snapping quick jab and his reach is shorter than Floyd's

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                    • Rath
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                      #50
                      If Floyd lost by KO on May 2nd, he could be aptly called "Floored Mayweather"

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