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  • #21
    Pac is Maidana if Maidana had speed and footwork.

    Not good news for Floyd.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
      nacho makes a good point about Pac being smart.

      It does takes intelligence and IQ to time the combinations, to position his body, and move his feet...and to know when to throw.

      People don't understand..that Pac effectively reads his opponent and anticipates their moves.
      Manny doesn't think doe

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      • #23
        Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23 View Post
        First off, when has PAC fought a fighter like Floyd? Now I'm a true fan so I study, not watch but study both fighters. Floyd can be touched, but you only get a chance or 2. Now PAC is open to the right hand a lot, and doesn't do good against defensive fighters. I've seen a lot of fighters make him miss but couldn't make him pay. That's the one guarantee That you get from Floyd which is he will make you pay. Then this is the first time in a long time he's been the bigger fighter. I got Floyd winning.
        If you studied the Algieri fight, Pacquiao did t give a crap about his power, and went all out for the KO. Algieri was too cautious and defensive, so he came in to open him up. Just like GGG/Murray. When you taste your opponents power, and realize they have nothing for you, and they have a high and tight shell, you give them some openings to get them to open up.

        PAC brings dimensions Floyd's never been in the ring with, and vice versa, but due to styles, I think Manny will be more comfortable, and steal a bunch of rounds. Manny is the only fighter that Floyd's faced that can steal rounds from him through 12 rounds, and not just the first 1 or 2.

        PAC brings different rhythyms as well. He can dart in and out, unlike most of Floyd's opponents. That foot work is gonna be trouble for Floyd.

        And I'm not saying it will be easy for PAC to beat Floyd. Hell no it won't. I'm saying, due to styles, Pac's gonna beat him.

        And no, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Floyd beat PAC. Who the hell would?

        And about the right hand thing, so what? Everyone's that consistently landed right hands on him have thrown combos, and was willing to get into the danger zone with PAC.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
          Pac is Maidana if Maidana had speed and footwork.

          Not good news for Floyd.
          Yes because Pacquiao uses strength to corner his opponents and fight on the inside.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            No he doesn't, he's regularly off balance a lunging with shots.
            Is that the reason most of his opponents can't catch him clean with the exception of Marquez? Your hate for him blinds you.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
              No he doesn't, he's regularly off balance a lunging with shots.
              You don't know what you're talking about.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23 View Post
                I watched the Zab fight the other day and you really can't take anything away from that fight. Floyd was younger which he was more offensive back then. Zab was also real defensive that fight which Floyd was pushing the fight the whole night because it was their game plan. So you really can't compare the 2
                Yes you can. An inferior southpaw fighter with speed made Floyd look like crap for four rounds in his prime. Now he's facing an aging, great fighter in his twilight.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
                  Pacquiao doesn't move his head constantly, he only moves it in spots. Rewatch Pac Marquez 4 and Roach was literally yelling at him, telling him he wasn't moving his head enough. Even while trying to bob and weave, Marquez still caught Manny with huge shots in that fight before KO'ing him.

                  Also, Floyd's right hand comes at you quicker and its more unpredictable than Marquez's right hand.
                  Are you kidding me? Manny moves his head more than any other boxer in the WW division for his past 3 fights. He was moving his head like crazy in all those fights. Rewatch them.

                  And unlike Floyd's opponents, he uses real feints with foot movement. He doesn't just feint with his upper body.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by nj_evoixgsr View Post
                    So you got Floyd winning because he will make him pay for missing a chance or 2? How many chances are two do you think Pac will have? Unless he really puts the breaks on it.....ABSOLUTELY ******! and he will lose if he does not bring it. He will bring many chances and if floyd fails to have Pac respect his "power". It is going to be a very long fight for floyd.

                    Pac has faced bigger fighters and not a single problem. I don't think that will be a factor. I think Floyd's reach will be a bigger factor. Pac will have to move quick to get in and find him from many angles. I can't wait to watch that straight left come down the pipe when he tries that counter right on the wrong time.

                    He hasn't faced Manny 40+ rounds like JMM. Floyd knows he will have to be careful and when you try to be careful he might miss that timing/opportunity.
                    Man I study both fighters. Not what I mean by Floyd being bigger is that his punches and being longer will sting more on PAC then what it would on a Canelo or Maidana. Another thing that I watch from their fights is that their heard are different. When Floyd gets mad or embarrass he gets very sharp. When PAC hits the gear he gets Reckless which in most cases is good, but against Floyd could be his down fall

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
                      I don't think people realize how hard this fight is going be for Floyd to win with what he is accustomed to in the ring. He is going to have to hurt Pacquiao to dictate the fight in any way. I have a feeling this fight will look like Cotto vs Pacquiao. It'll be close in the beginning but Pac's speed, power, and punch volume will simply overwhelm the aging Mayweather. Floyd needs to sit down on his punches and push the offensive IMO to suppress and disarm Pac's power.
                      You are acting as if Pacquiao isn't aging. Roach has said Pac's lost his killer instinct. He hasn't had a KO in years and only threw 669 punches against Algierie, almost half of what he threw against guys he fought five years ago.

                      Mayweather has never been overwhelmed but Manny has been outboxed.

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