Comments Thread For: Nacho: Pacquiao Has 45% Shot To Beat Mayweather

[ox805er]

clinching is a part of boxing and should be used when necessary, if the ref didnt stop it why are you complaining about it? why is maidana limited? he may not be great but hes good!! hes a world class fighter with a world class trainer... these guys arent push overs.. + he outweighed floyd about 20 pounds and is tough as nails.... not every victory will be pretty, there are various aspets to boxing.... all the greats have a little dirt in their arsenal. pac has a chance he just has to be able to do whatever he does for 12 rounds and adjust when floyd adjusts... thats where i see pac losing, a thinking mans fight... but if pac can do what he did to marquez in the first round (first fight) for the whole fight he will win! but how will pac respond if floyf fights him on the inside?

I'm a fan of doing anything at all cost to win.. within reason.. lara used excessive amount of footwork, yet even Mayweather fans call him a runner, algerie too..

Alexander used excessive amount of clinching vs maidana, yet he was called a hugger, boring and what not by mayweather fans. Yet isn't that's he blueprint money used? didn't help Kenny not warning him. So look at the fight, maidana with his awkwardness manage to get inside, NO CLINCHING OR HOLDING, and Kenny was there to separate.. didn't know getting too close to money was illegal?

good thing its A side vs A- side.. hope the refs and judges play evenly and don't taint what WE'VE ALL been waiting for..

[ox805er]

Pacs hand speed is definitely quicker than Floyds and he throws unpredictable combinations, meaning that Floyds not going to know when they are coming and that fake right-hand-straight-pot-shot-then-duck punch he stole from Roy Jones will not work on Pac if the movement and pressure is there.

I just hope Manny learns to cut that ring off... Cause handspeed isn't going to help him if he cant get on the inside.. cause I know, or greatly assuming, that Floyd is working on a lighting quick jab.. to use to escape with with footwork and keep Manny at a distance..

[Green Hornet]

Nacho is changing course. A month ago, Pacquiao will beat FMJ. Now FMJ has 65% chance of beating Pacquiao. Too low I think. Bettors think Mayweather has a 75% chance of winning.

[Beercules]

I believe strongly Pacquiao has a great chance to beat Floyd. Floyd's reflexes and hand speed have slowed down a lot. Pacquiao is still as fast and explosive as ever!

I believed this fight would happen, and it did! Now I believe Pacquiao will win, and he will !

Everyone just needs to believe and be positive that Pacquiao will win and he will! It's that easy friends!


- Bermuda

Amen Bermuda, amen!

[CatchAndShoot]

Did you just compare or put Floyd on the same lvl as Alfieri? And Floyd has more power than him. All Algieri did was throw tap jabs all night! But when he did throw the right he landed but it didn't mean ****! I also think you guys are sleeping on Floyd power. If he can make 160lbers respect him, why the hell do you think PAC wouldn't? It will be a great fight, but the only chance I give PAC is if he catch Floyd and really hurt him, but like I said before, I've seen that boy turn into a beast when the occasion arose

Are you dense? I said Pac didn't give a crap about his power, thus fought with the mindset of KO the whole fight.

Also, Algieri landed a handful of rights the entire fight. Where are all these right hands he landed? When your opponent doesn't throw any punches, you have to draw out his work rate, in order to land on the openings.

[CatchAndShoot]

You're talking about his past three fights but even inexperienced kickboxer Chris Algieri landed many right counters. Bradey landed a punch that lifted Manny clean off his feet in round 4 of their 2nd fight. And in the last fight with Marquez was knocked clean out.

Does this look like a guy who moved his head enough? vvvv

Algieri landed a handful of right hands in a 12 round fight. Cong****, you win a medal.

Bradley tends to land a lot of punches on his opponents, and if you count the right hands he landed, yes, he did well. Then add the other right hands he missed, got blocked, or just avoided, and you have Manny winning comfortably on the cards. Cong****, you win a medal.

That's cool. JMM was getting his ass kicked, and landed the most perfect right hand with a leaping in Manny. Manny knows Floyd's best punch is the right hand, and that he throws 90% of the time. JMM throws a **** ton of different punches, in combinations, and while he's getting hit. Not the same type of counter puncher. Cong****, you win a medal.

[CatchAndShoot]

It comes down to this. You can study all the tape you want, and point out all the flaws you want, but until you actually get in the ring, and feel his speed, weird angles, movement, and power, it doesn't matter.

Same with Floyd, but the Floyd fans that are more inclined to say he'll white wash Manny, when in fact, that's the furthest thing that's gonna happen.

It's gonna be a close fight, and I have Manny winning.

[TrueBoxingFan23]

A lot of technical points being bandied. Remember when Hopkins fought Taylor? Hopkins made the point that Taylor was an accident waiting to happen on a technical level, he pointed out examples of hands dropping, etc. The setup was that Hopkins was older and Taylor less experienced. Many of us think Hopkins in fact won but....Taylor was able to get to Hopkins because of his strength.

In this fight Pac is not younger than Floyd, but he presents as the fighter relying more on the unrfefined athletic qualities of speed and power. When Floyd fought Hatton he had the legs to set up that check hook, and Floydhas lost a lot of leg movement in the last few years....Again proof of contention would be the Madianna fight. Does anyone here really think Madianna has any success agains the Floyd of even a few years back?

Pacquio disguises a lot of his attacks with his frenetic movement. Floyd does tend to tighten up as one poster said, but he does not have the legs to make it a sure thing. Floyd's technical ability is truly offset by Pacquio's speed and angles...if Pacquio has not lost a step. Like Taylor Pac can overwhelm with pure relentless pursuite. Of course pacquio is not stronger than Floyd, and he does not have the reach, so these are things that also figure into the equation.

I agree with you to a point. But you really can't compare B hop and Taylor to Floyd and PAC. You made good points, but you failed to mention that Floyd is athletic also which makes him who he is. He has the most superior skill but is very athletic which makes him so dynamic. Now I don't take anything from PAC, but a lot of fans don't acknowledge Floyd heart. He showed it against Zab, Maidana, Canelo, and Mosley. If you get a good hit on him and embarrass Him, he will come harder at the opponent and try to get it back. I've just seen him adjust to many times for me to beleive that PAC will just overwhelm Floyd. Maidana have Floyd trouble because he was wild, and didn't know where the hell the punch was coming from

[Reloaded]

Nacho is changing course. A month ago, Pacquiao will beat FMJ. Now FMJ has 65% chance of beating Pacquiao. Too low I think. Bettors think Mayweather has a 75% chance of winning.

I have never seen him pick Manny put up a link will you .

[IR0NFIST]

The purpose of my post was to show that guy that Manny isn't the hardest target to hit. Yes it took Marquez 42 rounds to KO Manny but he had NO problem touching Manny in the previous 41 rounds which people believe he won most of. If it weren't for the extra point given by the knockdowns Marquez would have beaten Manny three out of four times!

You guys treat him like he's a better technician than he actually is. He's been Knocked down, he's been decisioned, and he's been Ko'd. Floyd will have no issue tagging him coming in.

There are no "ifs" about the knockdowns, trying to discredit those facts would be changing the fights entirely. I've never heard anybody claim that Pacquiao is the better technician, and for the record, anyone who thinks that he legitimately lost to Bradley are only fooling themselves. That KO loss was 3 fights ago, since then he's rebounded with 3 impressive wins, two of them being against undefeated prospects.

Floyd will tag Pacquiao with the same speed and power that he displayed in recent fights, but If Corley, Judah, Ortiz and Guerrero can tag Floyd then odds are that Pacquiao is capable of doing the same and then some. This isn't going to be an easy fight for either guy, both have reached the top of the P4P list, both are very comfortable under the spotlight, and neither guy fades down the stretch.