No drug testing kovalev-pascal

[HeroBando]

this is where we disagree. the first problem is sending over a contract without any testing in it. You think this was done over principles-I think it was being done over money-specifically her not wanting to spend it.

We can agree wot disagree. I'll just say this.

60 posts ago Freedom pointed out how Duva could've pulled Pascal's skirt up by saying I'll pay for both sides to test for VADA. Then if Pascal says no she has him. Yet she didn't do that.

Tells me she is being cheap and trying to make it about principles instead.

Pascal offered to pay for both, for a more expensive regime. If his concern is His opponent juicing, he shouldnt have issues paying for the cheaper testing

[The Big Dunn]

The problem is signing a contract without testing in it. Getting hustled, bamboozled, hoodwinked... whatever you want to call it, is only one persons fault for falling for it. Who HONESTLY doesn't read a contract or have their lawyers looking over it after it is sent?

We can agree to disagree. If you think Pascal got hoodwinked, so be it. I think he exposed Duva being cheap and all she could do was try and use her media contacts to make it look like Pascal is afraid of VADA.

Looks like someone was afraid of VADA long before Pascal.

In the end, Kathy got exactly what she wanted, no VADA testing. If Pascal is planning to cheat as so many are suggesting, Kathy didn't do anything to catch it or protect her fighter.

Kov is still going to KO Pascal IMO. There are no winners here.

[Muh Du-rag]

Pascal offered to pay for both, for a more expensive regime. If his concern is His opponent juicing, he shouldnt have issues paying for the cheaper testing

Exactly, the racial double standard rears it's ugly head once again.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Pascal offered to pay first time round if if I'm not mistaken?

Pascal offered to pay using the agency that he uses.

If Kovalev's team don't care about testing then why do they care which agency does it.

If they do care about which agency does it, then why aren't they paying for it themselves? If they really want to call Pascal's bluff, then offer to pay for the cheaper VADA for both fighters.

[ИATAS]

Indeed. If Duva/Kovalev had just left it at that, then there wouldn't be this confusion. The contract is signed. Too late.

But now it's like "We want to prove to the world we're clean but only if someone else pays".

Sends out a pretty weird message.

No that's not how it went. The contracts were signed. Pascal then said I want drug testing. Duva said it's not the promoters responsibility. Pascal then accused Kovalev of juicing. Basically slandering his name. Said if he has nothing to hide he'll take the tests and he'll pay for it personally. Kovalev said ok I'll do testing, Duva then said we'll take your offer since you'll pay. But now Pascal doesn't want to pay for VADA which is even cheaper. Duva was staying out of the drug testing, but Kovalev and his trainer said they'll do VADA, so she is doing what her fighter says. It would have been over if Pascal didn't make accusations, but he did and crossed the line. Now he's backpedaling.

If Pascal is truly concerned, he could pay for VADA for Kovalev, and still do his private Canadian testing. He doesn't want to for whatever reason.

Duva has always stuck to her guns about drug testing is not up to the promoters. It wasn't until Kovalev said he was fine with it that Duva announced Kovalev will take the extra testing.

[The Big Dunn]

The contract was the end of the game, final score Kovalev to finish your analogy. Game 2 is the fight itself.

Pascal had no right to ask for testing once the fight was signed, Kathy could have said **** you, you're dumb. Instead, you're treating her kindness as... I'm not sure what exactly, guilt?

She had no reason to even entertain the idea of testing and yet, she was 100% fine to MODIFY the contract under who did the testing. So treated it like a negotiation which is what it should have been and HANDLED before Pascal signed the contract.

The only issue I'm having is why can't Pascal, who is asking for the testing, accept any version of testing? Maybe Kovalev or Duva are diva's and don't want to let Pascal choose something that shouldn't be an issue. Either way, if you ask for testing and then say "but only from here" there is only one person who should look guilty. And all Pascal did by turning it down was look foolish because though he offered to pay for it, he wanted to pay for the more expensive, less strict testing.

Kindness. GTFO!! CHEAPNESS!!!!!

Her fighter is facing a memo trained fighter. according to many in this thread-that is exactly the kind of fighter you need to VADA test.

The same question can be asked of DUva-why is someone who doesn't care about testing , say a specific kind is better when she says she doesn't believe in the concept?

Pascal and DUva look about equally bad to me. Duva slightly moreso because of the tweets.

[SplitSecond]

these fights should have stringet vada like testing as mandatory

[The Big Dunn]

Pascal offered to pay for both, for a more expensive regime. If his concern is His opponent juicing, he shouldnt have issues paying for the cheaper testing

If duva wants this specific testing to be used, then PAY for it. No offense, but you wouldn't let Duva tell you how to spend your money.

SHe didn't care about testing until Pascal brought it up. If you think her reasoning for not putting it in is valid-then you can't cosign her saying VADA is better.

You are giving her the benefit of the doubt for not asking for testing where frankly IMO she doesn't deserve it.

[HeroBando]

If duva wants this specific testing to be used, then PAY for it. No offense, but you wouldn't let Duva tell you how to spend your money.

SHe didn't care about testing until Pascal brought it up. If you think her reasoning for not putting it in is valid-then you can't cosign her saying VADA is better.

You are giving her the benefit of the doubt for not asking for testing where frankly IMO she doesn't deserve it.

No, i support her 100%. I also believe this type of promoter contracted testing is a sham. But since Pascal insists, why not go with the cheapest, most effective option? Unless Pascal has something to hide

[The Big Dunn]

No, i support her 100%. I also believe this type of promoter contracted testing is a sham. But since Pascal insists, why not go with the cheapest, most effective option? Unless Pascal has something to hide

Then this is the real problem. You support her so you are ok with her saying promoter controlled testing is a sham so you don't have to address her failure to ask for it.

Then you fault Pascal for asking after the contract is signed. (ok, I get that).

Then you agree with DUva to call out Pascal for wanting to pay for WADA for both, even though that directly contradicts Her position regarding promoter controlled testing protocols-if they are a sham, they ALL are a sham, not just the cheapest one.

Then you cosign the fight not having testing yet never ask why she, after claiming the right to choose testing because her fighter is the champ, offered to pay for it.

Does it even strike you as odd that she claims the right to choose something she says is a sham?

We can agree to disagree.