No drug testing kovalev-pascal

[Dirk Diggler UK]

If they don't really care then why do they care about what agency does it? Or if Pascal has Memo?

"We don't really care but we do really care"

Ok then.

[elgu]

we will have to disagree. if you claim its your right to choose the testing protocol, do so when you send over the contract to the opponent. Don't try and save money and then use the media to shift the argument.

You are essentially saying Pascal is suspect for choosing his WADA, if that's the case, Kov is just as suspect that he didn't ask for testing up front. And no, I don't think Kov is dirty.

I think unless you are a ppv star you won't ask for testing because it costs too much. In any case Pascal offered to pay when he wanted to smear Kovalev but then put his tail between his legs and walked home when it was time to pay the bill(the bill of the real test).

[Beater_of_ass]

Kovalev sent the contract over without testing in it, which is why it got signed without testing.
If you didn't want VADA when you made the fight, you don't need it now.

Kovalev should be mad at Duva, not pascal.

So what... he signed it without reading. Whatever excuse you want to use, it's still his fault for signing.

[Light_Speed]

If her fighter wants it, why doesn't her fighter pay for it?

If you don't particularly care about testing then why do you particularly care about which agency does it?

If you do care about which agency does it, then why not pay for it?

I'm not saying Pascal would accept it. If he doesn't accept it then he'll look very suspect. So if you want to actually call his bluff, then offer to pay for VADA....it's cheap supposedly, no?

Right now Pascal just looks ******ed and Duva looks like a cheapskate with fake morals.

As I said, they don't particularly wanna do it, but if they do it they wanna do it right. Like someone who doesn't like their nose but it's not a big deal for them, if they get offered a free nose job they'd still wanna use the best surgeon they can get.

[SUBZER0ED]

The sanctioning commissions should first agree to standard drug testing en****** of not more than 2 choices, VADA or USADA, to be used for all sanctioned fights. It should then be established during negotiations which one will be used, and both fighters should use the same entity. Each promoter pays for his or her own fighter's testing. Clean fighters should have no problem with this. Dirty fighters will be the ones who are resistant. Without anti-doping standardization, this aspect of boxing will remain dirty.

[Foreign Soil]

If they don't really care then why do they care about what agency does it? Or if Pascal has Memo?

"We don't really care but we do really care"

Ok then.

Because if they do testing they'd rather do it right or not at all. Who in their right mind would trust a group out of Canada that has Memo's seal of approval? Do it with VADA, since neither party has ties to it.

[The Big Dunn]

Certainly didnt want Pascals Mickey Mouse testing either. So why bring it up after contracts signed?

My guess, is so there is some form of testing in the fight.

You and others just want to talk about Pascal and not whyu DUva left testing out in the 1st place. This isn't a chicken and eggt thing here-one clearly cam e first.

If you think Pascal looks bad-how does DUva look? you keep saying well, she doesn't believe in testing. You are ok with that (despite this day and age) yet kill Pascal for actually HAVING a testing protocol he uses.

You keep trying to get to C without saying A and B or count to 4 without 2 and 3.

Kathy Duva sent over a contract with no testing in it. Pascal signed it. pascal then asked for testing. He said he'd pay for the WADA. Kathy says, no make it VADA. Pascal refuses. Kathy defends herself in media by saying its her choice and maybe pascal doesn't want VADA because its cheaper and better.

Where is the first problem?

[HeroBando]

if you don't believe in it, then how can you have an opinion on which one is better?

Thats like saying you don't not believe in Monsters but then arguing Frankenstein is stronger than the Werewolf.

You can't have it both ways.

Because she may have misgivings about testing under some agemcy thats on Pascals payroll, obvious. Its like Povetkin insisting on testing under Rusada only

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because if they do testing they'd rather do it right or not at all. Who in their right mind would trust a group out of Canada that has Memo's seal of approval? Do it with VADA, since neither party has ties to it.

If they're so concerned about "doing it right" then why can't they dig into their pockets and pay for it themselves?

"We don't care but we do care"

[The Big Dunn]

I think unless you are a ppv star you won't ask for testing because it costs too much. In any case Pascal offered to pay when he wanted to smear Kovalev but then put his tail between his legs and walked home when it was time to pay the bill(the bill of the real test).

You have your mind made up its a smear campaign. I can't change that. That also doesn't justify a contract without testing in 2015 for a fight of this level.

I disagree with your calling it a smear campaign. And we can agree to disagree about the rest.

I respect the fact we had a civil debate.