Soviet/Eastern European heavyweights dominating 60s/70s era? Myth Busted!

[Suckmedry]

Some additional facts.. The MOMENT the other half of the world was allowed to box... The US was almost immediately booted out of boxing!

That's an amazing coincidence right!??

It's beyond doubt.. Had the Soviets been allowed to box professionally, we might have seen a few familiar names but many or even most of those old champs would never have existed.

That is a fact!

Joe Frazier did pretty good knocking out that 6''4 230lb russian. Especially for a half blind featherfisted dwarf who could barely even box

[slimshandy69]

As i say ive reported Lacedup for his blatant hatred towards a certain demographic, but what i really learned is how excellent debating this Elroy dude is. Welcome to NSB, you really have dismantled Lacedup preposterous "argument"

[Cutthroat]

Klit tards getting shytted on lmao.

Only unfortunate events such injuries, or $$$ problems force guys like Wilder into boxing, they'd rather play basketball or football. They are a dime a dozen everywhere in America.


America even has a largely untapped source of boxers in Mexican Europeans.
We've got 50 Million+ Mexicans living in America, most are mixed with Spanish/German. We are much bigger than the natives of MX. Benavidez Jr. is an example, guys like him are a dime a dozen, even Saul Alvarez or DLH. We are all around 5'8+, allowing us to fight in much bigger divisions.

The majority of Mexicans are short, because their ancestors were natives.

Most of us Mexican Americans play bball, or football, such as myself, those sports rule this country. I have a few friends right now that are going to turn pro soon, one of them is 18 years old, ripped at 160lbs, 5'10. He's destroying guys in the amateurs with ease, it's ridiculous his strength/speed/power and boxing ability. There are actually a couple of Euro-Mexican Americans that will turn pro soon in my city, all around 5'10+, they will make noise in boxing.

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Klit tards getting shytted on lmao.

Only unfortunate events such injuries, or $$$ problems force guys like Wilder into boxing, they'd rather play basketball or football. They are a dime a dozen everywhere in America.


America even has a largely untapped source of boxers in Mexican Europeans.
We've got 50 Million+ Mexicans living in America, most are mixed with Spanish/German. We are much bigger than the natives of MX. Benavidez Jr. is an example, guys like him are a dime a dozen, even Saul Alvarez or DLH. We are all around 5'8+, allowing us to fight in much bigger divisions.

The majority of Mexicans are short, because their ancestors were natives.

Most of us Mexican Americans play bball, or football, such as myself, those sports rule this country. I have a few friends right now that are going to turn pro soon, one of them is 18 years old, ripped at 160lbs, 5'10. He's destroying guys in the amateurs with ease, it's ridiculous his strength/speed/power and boxing ability. There are actually a couple of Euro-Mexican Americans that will turn pro soon in my city, all around 5'10+, they will make noise in boxing.

WTF? I live a 15 minute drive away from Mexico and the only sports I see Mexicans play on my side of the border is soccer, hand ball and of course, boxing.

[Cutthroat]

WTF? I live a 15 minute drive away from Mexico and the only sports I see Mexicans play on my side of the border is soccer, hand ball and of course, boxing.

We also play baseball, tennis, track and field, whatever sports are available to us which are many. It's usually the real Mexicans from Mexico that are playing soccer though lmao, I think 99% of our school soccer team was from mx.

99% of my school and city's football/bball team was MX American, including my 6'4 230lb brother who was that size when he was 11 years old. He chose football over boxing.

Mexican Americans are big, but not THAT big, more LHW size than anything, not so much HW size, either way we are much bigger than the natives, much larger frames, taller.

[LacedUp]

Can you not understand where I'm coming from?

Your whole assessment is if these guys turned pro having only AT THAT MOMENT been allowed to! What a biased BS assessment. See my above reply for the quoted answer to your whole thread!

And what trainers?

ONE great Soviet champ (Klitschko) was PARTLY trained by ONE great American trainer (Steward)...

The same one you guys complain about all the time for teaching Wlad to hold! There are some who even believe Sduneck was a better coach than Steward anyway. I think Steward did what he obviously did, ensured Wladimir victory at the expense of his excitement, he did little else noticeably better from a technical standpoint.

In my opinion, Euro trainers are evidently BETTER today. In my country alone, the national coach is a ****ing Euro ffs!

One great?

Let's look at GGG - Abel Sanchez.
Klitschko - Manny Steward.
Kovalev - John David Jackson
Andrew Golota (eastern still)- Al Certo
Vitali - Sdunek (German - not eastern).

I wasn't even trying to say there isn't any great Russian trainers, I meant back in those days they would have had to go to America to get training.

And yes that is the point because you amongst others have said that those boxers would have dominated had they been allowed to turn pro. Which is obviously utter nonsense.

Oh I think we have summarised enough points now to consider your thread pretty much exposed mate...

Thanks for coming chump!

Good research still and nice baiting qualities... You'll try anything to bait me out of ignoring you

If you guided that intelligence more toward analysis than you do history glorification you'd be worthy to take off ignore! Think about it!

What have you exposed? The first thing you did was to take this thread discussion into 21st century boxing

This has nothing to do with the Klitschkos.

[LacedUp]

As i say ive reported Lacedup for his blatant hatred towards a certain demographic, but what i really learned is how excellent debating this Elroy dude is. Welcome to NSB, you really have dismantled Lacedup preposterous "argument"

Once again, how many black fighters do you like?

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Once again, how many black fighters do you like?

Hmmm.. I would have say that I like two black fighters. Andre Ward and Keith Thurman.

I also like David Haye too.

[-Kev-]

Great thread.

American HW's were in shape back then.

Right now I think only Deontay Wilder and Seth Mitchell are in great shape.

The 90s batch of American HWs were the last one's to consistently be in shape.

[LacedUp]

Hmmm.. I would have say that I like two black fighters. Andre Ward and Keith Thurman.

I also like David Haye too.

I didn't ask you though.