Comments Thread For: In-Ring Monster Golovkin Must Relent To Get Big Fight

[HeroBando]

I like the GGG/Tyson comparison. I've liked it for awhile.

They don't have the same style, but they both search and destroy. Yes, I prefer Tyson's head and trunk movement over GGG's immobile noggin, but both guys have skills and a love for fighting.

GGG has a much more focused, steady mind. (He's not insane.)

But he's a lot older as champion. He's smarter and wiser, but he may not have a long road ahead. Remains to be seen.

Both fighters lack a meaningful opponent. Tyson was way past his short-lived prime when he faced Holyfield, etc.

GGG lacks anyone compelling to fight, someone interesting enough to capture a sizable audience.

He could get a lot of exposure by bludgeoning Chavez or Canelo. Ditto in the UK if he took out Froch over there.

[ManAnimalX]

Take your Pick, the Ratings good sir.

Which 168ers are these? We know its not Ward, he needs several tuneups. Its not Chavez, he changed his mind when the time came to sigh the contract. We know its not #1 active Smw Froch, cause Ggg punches like a mule and he'll swerve G if he can.

I'm saying for the past 3 + years but ok.........



Here are the current rankings at 168:


WBC WBA IBF WBO *********

WBC Champion: Anthony Dirrell


1. George Groves
2. Gilberto Ramirez
3. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
4. Andre Dirrell
5. James De Gale
6. Callum Smith
7. Lucian Bute
8. Sakio Bika
9. Alexander Brand
10. Badou Jack
11. Felix Sturm
12. Derek Edwards
13. Christopher Rebrasse
14. Beibi Berrocal
15. Schiller Hyppolite


WBA Top Contenders:
Andre Ward
Carl Froch

1. Fedor Chudinov
2. Felix Sturm
3. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
4. Gilberto Ramirez
5. George Groves
6. Andre Dirrell
7. Thomas Oosthuizen
8. Lucian Bute
9. Julius Jackson
10. Rogelio Medina
11. Rocky Fielding
12. Balazs Kelemen
13. Felix Varela
14. Mariano Hilario
15. Derek Edwards

IBF Champion : Carl Froch

1. James DeGale
2. Andre Dirrell
3. Gilberto Ramirez
4. George Groves
5. Julius Jackson
6. Rogelio Medina
7. Rocky Fielding
8. Christopher Rebrasse
9. Robert Stieglitz
10. Callum Smith
11. Brandon Gonzales
12. Giovanni De Carolis
13. Mouhamed Ali Ndiaye
14. Schiller Hyppolite
15. Yuzo Kityota

WBO Champion: Arthur Abraham

1. Robert Stieglitz
2. Gilberto Ramirez
3. James DeGale
4. Paul Smith
5. Vincent Feigenbutz
6. Tyron Zeuge
7. Balazs Kelemen
8. George Tahdooahnippah
9. Frank Buglioni
10. Rohan Murdock
11. Isaac Ekpo
12. Zac Dunn
13. Thomas Oosthuizen
14. Tim-Robin Lihaug
15. Rocky Fielding


Again this is current, but there has been and are still PLENTY of names for ol Golovkin at 168 (where he belongs, just look at how he's manhandled the competition at 160 so far, who is there left?) to have ALREADY 3 years ago tested himself against.

So again and yes Golovkin is not the 1st, but he has been "dragging " his feet and putting off fighting "stiff" competition for over 3 years +, but he's not a "Cherry Picker" like all those before him?

But,.......uh yeah. Exactly. :ANYWORD:

The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. - Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

[HeroBando]

I'm saying for the past 3 + years but ok.........



Here are the current rankings at 168:


WBC WBA IBF WBO *********

WBC Champion: Anthony Dirrell


1. George Groves
2. Gilberto Ramirez
3. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
4. Andre Dirrell
5. James De Gale
6. Callum Smith
7. Lucian Bute
8. Sakio Bika
9. Alexander Brand
10. Badou Jack
11. Felix Sturm
12. Derek Edwards
13. Christopher Rebrasse
14. Beibi Berrocal
15. Schiller Hyppolite


WBA Top Contenders:
Andre Ward
Carl Froch

1. Fedor Chudinov
2. Felix Sturm
3. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
4. Gilberto Ramirez
5. George Groves
6. Andre Dirrell
7. Thomas Oosthuizen
8. Lucian Bute
9. Julius Jackson
10. Rogelio Medina
11. Rocky Fielding
12. Balazs Kelemen
13. Felix Varela
14. Mariano Hilario
15. Derek Edwards

IBF Champion : Carl Froch

1. James DeGale
2. Andre Dirrell
3. Gilberto Ramirez
4. George Groves
5. Julius Jackson
6. Rogelio Medina
7. Rocky Fielding
8. Christopher Rebrasse
9. Robert Stieglitz
10. Callum Smith
11. Brandon Gonzales
12. Giovanni De Carolis
13. Mouhamed Ali Ndiaye
14. Schiller Hyppolite
15. Yuzo Kityota

WBO Champion: Arthur Abraham

1. Robert Stieglitz
2. Gilberto Ramirez
3. James DeGale
4. Paul Smith
5. Vincent Feigenbutz
6. Tyron Zeuge
7. Balazs Kelemen
8. George Tahdooahnippah
9. Frank Buglioni
10. Rohan Murdock
11. Isaac Ekpo
12. Zac Dunn
13. Thomas Oosthuizen
14. Tim-Robin Lihaug
15. Rocky Fielding


Again this current, and there are PLENTY of names for ol Golovkin to have ALREADY 3years ago tested himself against.

But,.......uh yeah. Exactly. :ANYWORD:

“The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” - Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

Wtf is this, why are you pasting some rankings here? If he fought 8/10 of these, youd say theyre bums.

Again moron, 3 years ago Ggg was a regular titlist with 0 US tv appearances, not even Ring top 5 at middle, with career high purse in 5 digits probably. Look at him now. Just start following boxing, and it'll all start making sense.

[ИATAS]

Valero may have become PPV, but will never know.....

N'dam and Sturm? who you picking against Golovkin considering there age and being way past there primes? lol exactly so please...,

I'm saying they already turned down fights. When Felix Sturm was champ, and before N'dam lost to Quillin, dolt. You obviously haven't following Golovkins career.

If you could comprehend my post, I said "and lessor fighters like N'dam and Sturm". I didn't say they were great fighters.

Cotto aint no middleweight,

He is the lineal middleweight champion, and a star. Unifying the division and beating the biggest stars is usually the goal in boxing.

Quillen is a coward, and not very good either, more hype.

Doesn't matter, he's considered #2 in the division and was a title holder, my point was he and everyone else I mentioned turned down fights with GGG. You're the one complaining about GGG's resume, and I'm showing you why it lacks better names. His resume would be a hell of a lot better if these guys grew a pair and fought him.

And Chavez is too inactive, but could beat Golovkin perhaps, maybe.

I don't care if Chavez is inactive. Point was he's another guy that rejected Golovkin (last year he pulled out).

And your ignorant,

You're

stars in ANY SPORT are created and nurtured way lonnnnng before the average fan or media starts talking about them.....get educated or is it you need to "grow a pair" and acknowledge Truth?, either way get it done son.

Golovkin wasn't created winning several hundred fights in the amateurs. That was his doing. He spent the first half of his career in Germany and the likes getting ****ed around by management. He was the mandatory challenger to Felix Sturm's belt for two years, but boxing politics never gave him the opportunity.

HBO wanted to feature Dmitry Pirog. After Pirog scored a beautiful KO over Jacobs, there were some fans that demanded his return to HBO. Once Hershman came to HBO, he wanted Pirog back on. They made a nice fight with Pirog vs a highly ranked fighter in Golovkin. Pirog ended up injuring his back in training, and they found Proska as a replacement. Golovkin made the most of it by destroying him, impressed HBO and they invited him back. After another impressive outing, they gave the man a contract. Again, GGG wasn't created. He fought in relative obscurity for a while, got an opportunity on HBO and he made the most of it. That's all Golovkin. Any hype is coming straight from the fans.

Entertaining yes, but how about you entertain the boxing fans as well as the "casuals" like yourself, by not making excuses like nobody wants to fight me, there are plenty of guys at 168, that wouldn't blink to fight ol Golovkin, who is a very very solid, thick bodied, muscular middleweight.

Like who exactly? Ward is MIA, Froch just gave up his title and is holding out for Chavez, Kessler just retired, Anthony Dirrell has a fight coming up against DeGale I believe, Bika is fighting Stevenson, so who does that leave? And furthermore why does he have to move up? He's a middleweight.

just more excuses from the fan-cult boys, the same one's that have lamblasted Mayweather Jr as an example for cherry picking.........THE EXACT SAME THING Golovkin has been doing for 3 years +.........

But, no no no, its got NOTHING TO DO with Race, right?

Right, which is why my favorite fighter is Bernard Hopkins because I hate black people and only cheer for white centeral Asians with Korean mothers.

Please, go hide in your closet some more cause this is "Grown folks" conversations going on here, boy.

You need to see a psychologist, there is clearly something wrong with you.

[Joe Beamish]

He could get a lot of exposure by bludgeoning Chavez or Canelo. Ditto in the UK if he took out Froch over there.

I agree that GGG needs to move up to 168 to get good fights. But first he wants to complete his collection of MW hardware.

But I still don't see any really cool opponents at MW or SMW. Canelo is the closest thing. But I don't sense him coming anywhere near GGG.

Chavez Jr. would be a beast-fest and a huge blood-and-guts beat down. But he lacks quality, that boy. He's a freaking dumpster of a boxer. He's a doofus. If GGG kills him in the ring (which is likely), it's still a crappy win. A high paying one, yes -- but crappy.

[ИATAS]

A Latino ()argentinian() head lining a fight in Mexico?, what a rare sight and "PRIVILEDGE" it must be for a Latino to headline a fight in Mexico......what a carrot, lol ?

If its in Mexico then it aint just the "White Power" brokers, and it sure as heck isn't some Huge honor to fight in front of your own vs on the Big Stage in America, with all its alleged "diversity".....it aint Vegas baby(white owned operated establishment).

Dude, your are making me laugh...seriously how many times has Golovkin's REAL heritage been apart of his public image and selling point? ZERO times, its a very mute and irrelevant fact.

His persona is he's RUSSIAN, from Northern Europe and he's obviously white, NOT that he's part Korean lol, does he have a huge Korean fan base? Nope, there not boxing fans by in large, so then......what is your point?

I understasnd that YOU see there's more to Golovkin, but he's not being promoted as such, but more in a "Stereo Typical" fashion, as a "Great White Hope".

Truth.

“The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” - Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor
:ANYWORD:

Wow this just conforms my statement that you definitely need psychiatric help. Get on some medication ASAP, some screws are loose, you're not playing with a full deck man.

The only part I'm even going to comment on is Velaro. My point about him fighting in Cancun was that there was such a buzz around him at the time that HBO uncharacteristically broadcasted his card live from Cancun because he couldn't fight in the states because of his visa problems. They went out of their way for Valero because there was a lot of hype. He was a huge star in the making. Like I said, he was one to two fights away from headlining a PPV with Pacquiao. Bob Arum wouldn't stop talking about it. Everyone wanted more Valero, he was exciting. Race played zero part. Anytime the boxing world sees a KO artist there is hype, it transcends race. People love knockouts, period.

[HeroBando]

I agree that GGG needs to move up to 168 to get good fights. But first he wants to complete his collection of MW hardware.

But I still don't see any really cool opponents at MW or SMW. Canelo is the closest thing. But I don't sense him coming anywhere near GGG.

Chavez Jr. would be a beast-fest and a huge blood-and-guts beat down. But he lacks quality, that boy. He's a freaking dumpster of a boxer. He's a doofus. If GGG kills him in the ring (which is likely), it's still a crappy win. A high paying one, yes -- but crappy.

Yeah I dont think much of Chavez. Would make for a fun fight. Hes big, dumb, good chin. But hes the only ppv guy above Cotto/Canelo weight of 155, so hes in everyones sights: Ggg, Froch, Ward... You beat him up in style, and some of that ppv appeal rubs off

[HeroBando]

I'm saying they already turned down fights. When Felix Sturm was champ, and before N'dam lost to Quillin, dolt. You obviously haven't following Golovkins career.

If you could comprehend my post, I said "and lessor fighters like N'dam and Sturm". I didn't say they were great fighters.



He is the lineal middleweight champion, and a star. Unifying the division and beating the biggest stars is usually the goal in boxing.



Doesn't matter, he's considered #2 in the division and was a title holder, my point was he and everyone else I mentioned turned down fights with GGG. You're the one complaining about GGG's resume, and I'm showing you why it lacks better names. His resume would be a hell of a lot better if these guys grew a pair and fought him.



I don't care if Chavez is inactive. Point was he's another guy that rejected Golovkin (last year he pulled out).



You're



Golovkin wasn't created winning several hundred fights in the amateurs. That was his doing. He spent the first half of his career in Germany and the likes getting ****ed around by management. He was the mandatory challenger to Felix Sturm's belt for two years, but boxing politics never gave him the opportunity.

HBO wanted to feature Dmitry Pirog. After Pirog scored a beautiful KO over Jacobs, there were some fans that demanded his return to HBO. Once Hershman came to HBO, he wanted Pirog back on. They made a nice fight with Pirog vs a highly ranked fighter in Golovkin. Pirog ended up injuring his back in training, and they found Proska as a replacement. Golovkin made the most of it by destroying him, impressed HBO and they invited him back. After another impressive outing, they gave the man a contract. Again, GGG wasn't created. He fought in relative obscurity for a while, got an opportunity on HBO and he made the most of it. That's all Golovkin. Any hype is coming straight from the fans.




Like who exactly? Ward is MIA, Froch just gave up his title and is holding out for Chavez, Kessler just retired, Anthony Dirrell has a fight coming up against DeGale I believe, Bika is fighting Stevenson, so who does that leave? And furthermore why does he have to move up? He's a middleweight.



Right, which is why my favorite fighter is Bernard Hopkins because I hate black people and only cheer for white centeral Asians with Korean mothers.




You need to see a psychologist, there is clearly something wrong with you.

Good work man. Most of these idiots dont understand hes the opposite of hypejobs like Berto. That he didnt have it easy and earned all of it and is only now reaching the purses Berto was getting for Freddy Hernandez.

This lunatic keeps going on about 3 years ago. Just checked, he was #10 mw in Ring rankings then

[ManAnimalX]

Ignoring the obvious, again.

Wtf is this, why are you pasting some rankings here? If he fought 8/10 of these, youd say theyre bums.

Again moron, 3 years ago Ggg was a regular titlist with 0 US tv appearances, not even Ring top 5 at middle, with career high purse in 5 digits probably. Look at him now. Just start following boxing, and it'll all start making sense.

So then, fighter's like James Degale, George Groves. Sakio Bika, The Dirrell brothers, and of course Froch and Ward aren't stiff competition?, every weight class has bums, but Golovkin has beaten everyone at 160, and further more before he beat them...WE ALREADY KNEW HE WOULD BEAT THEM.

But at least the BUMS at 168 would stand a better chance against Golovkin and his vaunted power, and it would be interesting to see what happens when 1 of these thick headed luggs at 168 is able to take Golovkins shots and bring the Power right back at him.

What a waste to say there's still something to PROVE at 160, when there's obviously no one can stand up to him at 160, and mostly cause there are no very good or great fighter at 160......and guess what? THERE HASNT BEEN FOR YEARS NOW.....

You said:

'Again moron, 3 years ago Ggg was a regular titlist with 0 US tv appearances, not even Ring top 5 at middle, with career high purse in 5 digits probably. Look at him now. Just start following boxing, and it'll all start making sense.[/QUOTE]"

Reply:

I am looking at him, and 3 years later...he STILL HASNT PROVEN NOTHING, just collecting 5 digit purses as you said, probably. He sure as hell hasn't fought any REAL good or great fighters. And I'm been following boxing waaaaaay longer than you, kid. And this irrelevant but I participated in the Sport locally for years, as a fighter.

So you can keep you uneducated opinion, you aint said 1 thing that adds up to anything other than.....gibberish, from another uneducated fool hardy American bimbo.

Class Dismissed.



Just more non-sense from butt hurt Cult-Fanboys. :ANYWORD:

“The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” - Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

[ManAnimalX]

put the drugs down, sir.

:ANYWORD:

Good work man. Most of these idiots dont understand hes the opposite of hypejobs like Berto. That he didnt have it easy and earned all of it and is only now reaching the purses Berto was getting for Freddy Hernandez.

This lunatic keeps going on about 3 years ago. Just checked, he was #10 mw in Ring rankings then

You Mad? lol. Hey at least you can count to 10, awesome. lol

The opposite of a hype job would be someone who's proven in the ring that there worth all the attention they get beyond the fact that "uneducated" casual fans like yourself are easily amused and just want to see KO's, blood, machismo etc.....

most cowards will attempt to ignore FACTS, cause they just want to be right, kinda of............nar·cis·sis·tic


adjective: narcissistic


having an excessive or ****** interest in oneself and one's physical appearance.
"a narcissistic actress"


synonyms: vain, self-loving, self-admiring, self-absorbed, self-obsessed, conceited, self-centered, self-regarding, egotistic, egotistical, egoistic; informalfull of oneself

"He was never happy in the narcissistic life that her press agent and manager had crafted for her"


***8226;relating to narcissism.
"narcissistic personality disorder"


Just another dumb butt with nothing educated to say, besides abase and "childish poop tossing" name calling. lol Class Dismissed. :ANYWORD: