Someone help me understand this about the Canelo-Cotto fight..

[Big_L]

How do you know? You really don't know more about the situation than anybody else here. Everything you've posted so far has been conjecture.

If Floyd would have fought anyone else, that would have been on his team to decide.

June may be better, but you can either afford it or you can't.

HBO and showtime would not have ppvs the same night. Ask anybody who covers boxing and they will tell you that. Makes zero business sense. the plan was to get the fight signed before mayweather got his set.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Okay lets say all that happened as you say it would, was it still a career high payday or not?

How could it be a career payday, Floyd's PPV is taking buys from Cotto vs Canelo, there's no way that either guy could maximize their earnings with a PPV against Floyd vs whoever.

Pacquiao doesn't fight with Floyd over PPV days, why would anyone offer top dollars to a fight which isn't gonna do best it could it do. ODLH would be setting up Canelo for failure and Bob is too smart for that.

[Big_L]

You're not factoring in that the fight would have been pushed back. You thibk they would have stuck to the May 2nd date? They would not.

I know they wouldn't. Are you factoring in a different date means a different venue? Which means a different gate. what about ppv buys may 2 vs June 13 following may/pac? There are variables to consider. Which is why you wait.

[SeekDaGreat]

How could it be a career payday, Floyd's PPV is taking buys from Cotto vs Canelo, there's no way that either guy could maximize their earnings with a PPV against Floyd vs whoever.

Pacquiao doesn't fight with Floyd over PPV days, why would anyone offer top dollars to a fight which isn't gonna do best it could it do. ODLH would be setting up Canelo for failure and Bob is too smart for that.

It's a career high payday because he would make more money out the gate than he ever made with PPV sales, and everything else.

True......?

[PACnPBFsuck]

It's a career high payday because he would make more money out the gate than he ever made with PPV sales, and everything else.

True......? And that was assuming they were foolish enough to go head to head with Floyd. I was playing Devils Advocate, and assuming the worst and I'm still right.

If they went against Floyd vs Khan(example) on May 2nd, I would be very surprised if the sales of the Canelo vs Cotto fight went over 300K.

[SeekDaGreat]

I know they wouldn't. Are you factoring in a different date means a different venue? Which means a different gate. what about ppv buys may 2 vs June 13 following may/pac? There are variables to consider. Which is why you wait.

What he would have made off the contract alone with not one PPV sale would still be a career high payday. I'm pretty sure. Wasn't the offer $13million or higher? Don't even think he made that off Floyd plus all your considered variables.

[SeekDaGreat]

If they went against Floyd vs Khan(example) on May 2nd, I would be very surprised if the sales of the Canelo vs Cotto fight went over 300K.

This is Canelo Cotto. Not Canelo Kirkland. The fight would do well on any date, and obviously better on some dates more than others.

[SeekDaGreat]

Big L, we might be having a break through... Are you telling me that if they agreed to a certain dollar amount just to sign the contract that THAT would change if they changed dates and venues?

For example, let's say Cotto signed to 15mil. Let's forget all PPV variables and everything. Are you telling me that if they switch dates and venues he's no longer guaranteed that 15-mil that he was contractually guaranteed?

Because IF that's the case... Then we might be onto something here. I would see your point in that case.

[PACnPBFsuck]

This is Canelo Cotto. Not Canelo Kirkland. The fight would do well on any date, and obviously better on some dates more than others.

It's a really good fight, it just won't do as good as if it were a PPV on its own day, that's what I'm trying to say.

[Big_L]

What he would have made off the contract alone with not one PPV sale would still be a career high payday. I'm pretty sure. Wasn't the offer $13million or higher? Don't even think he made that off Floyd plus all your considered variables.

Like pac should have took 40 million bc it was a career high offer?

You don't know what the numbers were. You don't know what the numbers Floyd might have been offering.