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  • JmH Reborn
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    #41
    Originally posted by mathed
    Um, or Bradley says no thanks, makes a few mill at 147 fighting Rios or someone else for a WW title. What is Cotto going to do, who is he going to fight at this stage in his career that meets his requirements? Cotto wants a big name and a big name only but he wants that name only to be a guy who is moving up in weight.

    All Bradley has to gain out of that is a MW belt. That is great and all but why would he go for that, move up in weight, be the B side, and come in at a weight that would sacrifice his attributes? He could be the A side, win a WW title, make millions and not have to move anywhere.

    Cotto has a few guys at MW who could make him a great fight as it is.....AT MW, WHERE HE HAS A BELT.
    The fight can be whatever weight Bradley comes in...it can be contracted at 160 and you know Cotto will be 155-156 - so if Bradley comes in at 152 so be it. If it's contracted at 152, and Bradley wins it'll be a non-legitimate win.

    Damn - I thought the idea of being a Bradley fan is because you respect his toughness and grit and love those odds. I'm a Cotto-stan and I want him to fight GGG, not Bradley - guts and glory; if I'm a Bradley fan, I want Cotto at whatever and wherever. It's Bradley's ONLY chance at MW gold and prestige north of WW. You worried about his money instead of what would best enhance his image in the lexicon of boxing history.

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      #42
      Originally posted by JmH Reborn
      The fight can be whatever weight Bradley comes in...it can be contracted at 160 and you know Cotto will be 155-156 - so if Bradley comes in at 152 so be it. If it's contracted at 152, and Bradley wins it'll be a non-legitimate win.

      Damn - I thought the idea of being a Bradley fan is because you respect his toughness and grit and love those odds. I'm a Cotto-stan and I want him to fight GGG, not Bradley - guts and glory; if I'm a Bradley fan, I want Cotto at whatever and wherever. It's Bradley's ONLY chance at MW gold and prestige north of WW. You worried about his money instead of what would best enhance his image in the lexicon of boxing history.
      I'm a Bradley fan but that doesn't mean I want the guy to be some type of pawn who gets pimped out for the all mighty dollar. He is tough, as tough as they come but does that mean I thin he should be fighting the MW and SMW champions just because he has heart?

      If that were the case, by proxy, Cotto should endeavor to fight Ward, Froch, GGG; turn his nose up at the prospect of fighting a guy that would possibly offer built in excuse by having to move up to accommodate him. Why does your argument only seem to apply to Bradley and not Cotto?

      You say you would prefer him to fight GGG in lieu of Bradley but go on to convince me that a fight against Cotto is in the best interests of Bradley. That seems slightly hypocritical and in complete conflict with your preference for a Cotto fight.

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        #43
        Originally posted by mathed
        I'm a Bradley fan but that doesn't mean I want the guy to be some type of pawn who gets pimped out for the all mighty dollar. He is tough, as tough as they come but does that mean I thin he should be fighting the MW and SMW champions just because he has heart?

        If that were the case, by proxy, Cotto should endeavor to fight Ward, Froch, GGG; turn his nose up at the prospect of fighting a guy that would possibly offer built in excuse by having to move up to accommodate him. Why does your argument only seem to apply to Bradley and not Cotto?

        You say you would prefer him to fight GGG in lieu of Bradley but go on to convince me that a fight against Cotto is in the best interests of Bradley. That seems slightly hypocritical and in complete conflict with your preference for a Cotto fight.
        A Cotto fight is in the best interest of Bradley, both monetary and otherwise. It's a winnable fight, it's a money fight and it's also a fan friendly fight so his stock won't go down with an L. It's a chance for Bradley to prove his p4p claim as he's beating guys at or near his weight. I also think he's a W or two away from completely christening his bust in Canestosta; I think this fight would do it.

        Cotto and GGG is a win-win for Cotto too, which is why I want it. It's a fight that nobody would favor him in, it's a money fight and it's a very fan friendly fight. His stock can't go down because he's already stamped his claim in the HoF. The narrative will be that Cotto took a fight that he had no way of winning and took it anyways and fought valiantly. And to be honest, I don't think it's a surefire conclusion that GGG wins going away - there is still an issue of what levels GGG has been in the ring with - but that's another thread.

        And you know what, Cotto already made the sacrifice that is being asked of Bradley. He was the underdog to Sergio, he was moving up and he was in a win-win situation. If he wins, he overcomes the odds, wins the MW title that even Tito failed to do and does something no Rican ever did - Cotto already did it. He had nothing to lose fighting Sergio, because it was concluded that Sergio was too big, too fast and too strong for a washed up Cotto, with or w/o knees. Pundits and fan sentiments prove this.

        Bradley is still writing the book to his career, trying to impose these weak demands will just have Cotto look elsewhere and will have Bradley sitting in a corner looking at the prospects of Chaves II or Provo II.

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          #44
          You should of asked for a pair of socks straight from his dresser.

          Its like the movie Like Mike, except its with socks and its Like Tim.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            I understand why Bradley would take the Cotto fight but isn't he tired of being Top Rank's b1tch boy? It's like they drag him out by the collar whenever a big name has run out of options and needs an opponent where there isn't much risk. Enter Bradley!

            He should tell Bob Arum he wants a fight where he's actually giving equal billing and that would be against Khan.
            So basically, you want Bradley to fight Khan, because Bradley is low risk. Even though Bradley's punches couldn't crack on egg, I still think he cracks Khan's glass jaw.

            Egg shell > Khan's glass jaw!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Bradley said he wanted to build his own name and brand. He should do that in fights where he is given equal star billing, like against Khan.

              He's basically known worldwide as that black guy that fought Pacquiao. Then someone goes, "Who? Mayweather?" and you have to say "No....the other one".

              That's how conversations about Tim Bradley will start for years to come.
              ^"What do you think of Amir Khan?"
              *"Who the **** is that?"
              ^"The dude that said he wanted to fight PacWeather."
              *"Well I'd fight them too for the money, what makes Amir special?"
              ^"He was rich at 17 doe m8."
              *"Fuq if I care m8."

              I'd rather be known as the non-Floyd black guy that fought Pacquiao than no-name Khan. No casual knows who Khan is outside of your petty country.

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                #47
                Originally posted by mathed
                Bradley does have the style to beat Cotto but I don't like 154. He has more leverage than Cotto does imo. Cotto ****ed around with Canelo and the dude walked out on him and he knows that there are only a few guys that he can fight who are of the caliber that he needs. Bradley can force the hand here because if Cotto tells him to take a hike, sure, he can fight Rios at 147 for 1 or 2 million anyways while Cotto will still be trying to avoid GGG at MW.

                Same thing with Canelo, Cotto thought he could boss him around and the young buck showed him who really holds the cards. Bradley needs to hold his ground here and demand the really big bucks or threaten to walk.....Cotto will give in, he has very few alternatives at this point.
                I agree with you, no doubt. But you gotta look at the landscape too. Bradley fights within a limited stable. The rios fight is there, sure. And I like that fight. But he doesn't have the option to fight the khans, Guerrero's, or maidanas to really pad his record with. Or even choose them as a second option.


                I do not like this fight at 160 or even 155. Definitely not for the MW strap. Like I said I pictured Cotto losing to canelo then dropping back down and fight Bradley and losing in a 'comeback'. But having Cotto on resumè (win or lose) is just as much about legacy at this point as well. TB is gonna make money. We want the HOF.

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
                  ^"What do you think of Amir Khan?"
                  *"Who the **** is that?"
                  ^"The dude that said he wanted to fight PacWeather."
                  *"Well I'd fight them too for the money, what makes Amir special?"
                  ^"He was rich at 17 doe m8."
                  *"Fuq if I care m8."

                  I'd rather be known as the non-Floyd black guy that fought Pacquiao than no-name Khan. No casual knows who Khan is outside of your petty country.
                  Khan is one of the most famous boxers in the world. You'd know that if you stepped outside your petty country. But we all know what happens when your kind decide to do that....

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Khan is one of the most famous boxers in the world. You'd know that if you stepped outside your petty country. But we all know what happens when your kind decide to do that....



                    Oh but Bute was winning that fight, he won all the rounds until the last 10 seconds of those rounds.

                    Guy told me to "rewatch the fight"

                    Doesn't even realise how ridiculous he sounds that's the sad part.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Khan is one of the most famous boxers in the world. You'd know that if you stepped outside your petty country. But we all know what happens when your kind decide to do that....

                      Yeah we're targeted by islamic radicals even in "your" UK. It sucks that even British born citizens can't even walk some of the streets in ****** controlled sectors. You know? The "Amir Khan" looking types?
                      Last edited by jri9d0; 02-21-2015, 08:49 AM.

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