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    #31
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    One thread of Khan's last pair of shorts cost more than your car.
    You're salty as ****.

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      #32
      Originally posted by -MEGA-
      So how I saw a Cotto bradley fight playing out is Cotto would have fought Alvarez (lose). Move back down to 154 and fought bradley in his 'comeback' fight. That too me made sense.


      But that's not how it worked, and if Bradley gets the fight its still a fight I want to see. It's still a good fight. PPV even. The fact that the MW belt would be on the line is more of a knock on Cotto than bradley. Everybody knows Cotto isnt a 160. Plus he's pretty much the same size as Bradley. Why wouldn't Bradley take the fight though? It's a logical fight in his career IMO.
      I don't like it. Bradley jumping from 147 to 155 with no prior pro fights at that weight? Nah, it's a chump move by Cotto to get an advantage. Bradley doesn't have the pop and plus, he loses invaluable speed and agility in making that move. He should force them to have Cotto drop down to 152 to make the fight happen. As it is, all the sacrifice is on Bradley's part, Cotto risks essentially nothing which is far from a fair trade imo.

      Drop to 152, no belt at stake. Otherwise, if it's at 155, I want 10 million plus 40% of all PPV revenue....take it or leave it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        being top rank ***** boy is making him rich.

        2 pac fights and a cotto fight. ka ching ka ching ka ching
        Yeah but it must get a bit demoralising to be little more than a high priced whore. Bradley said he contemplated suicide after earning $5million against Pacquiao the first time. Money obviously can't buy him happiness.

        What happened to "The Bradley Brand" that he said he wanted to build at Top Rank? He's basically just the new Josh Clottey over there. B-side 4 life.

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          #34
          Originally posted by mathed
          I don't like it. Bradley jumping from 147 to 155 with no prior pro fights at that weight? Nah, it's a chump move by Cotto to get an advantage. Bradley doesn't have the pop and plus, he loses invaluable speed and agility in making that move. He should force them to have Cotto drop down to 152 to make the fight happen. As it is, all the sacrifice is on Bradley's part, Cotto risks essentially nothing which is far from a fair trade imo.

          Drop to 152, no belt at stake. Otherwise, if it's at 155, I want 10 million plus 40% of all PPV revenue....take it or leave it.


          I agree. Bradley is taking all the risk here. Tbh though, I think he's only gonna fight 4 maybe 5 more times then call it quits. If he were to lose to Cotto, which there's a good chance with him having all the advantages that you mentioned. He could still make some good coin and let's say he gets a few resent names on his resume before he calls it quits. Only losing to Pac and Cotto ain't so bad. Especially for us who understand the situation. At 152 I think bradley beats him similar to JMM fashion though. TBH I just think it's a great style match up.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Yeah but it must get a bit demoralising to be little more than a high priced whore. Bradley said he contemplated suicide after earning $5million against Pacquiao the first time. Money obviously can't buy him happiness.

            What happened to "The Bradley Brand" that he said he wanted to build at Top Rank? He's basically just the new Josh Clottey over there. B-side 4 life.
            Dirk, your arguments are gay and outlandish. Khan is a ****in b-side that can't even get a fight. He's a ****in begger...

            "I handed devon his 3rd defeat, I'm the best"

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              #36
              Originally posted by -MEGA-
              I agree. Bradley is taking all the risk here. Tbh though, I think he's only gonna fight 4 maybe 5 more times then call it quits. If he were to lose to Cotto, which there's a good chance with him having all the advantages that you mentioned. He could still make some good coin and let's say he gets a few resent names on his resume before he calls it quits. Only losing to Pac and Cotto ain't so bad. Especially for us who understand the situation. At 152 I think bradley beats him similar to JMM fashion though. TBH I just think it's a great style match up.
              Bradley does have the style to beat Cotto but I don't like 154. He has more leverage than Cotto does imo. Cotto ****ed around with Canelo and the dude walked out on him and he knows that there are only a few guys that he can fight who are of the caliber that he needs. Bradley can force the hand here because if Cotto tells him to take a hike, sure, he can fight Rios at 147 for 1 or 2 million anyways while Cotto will still be trying to avoid GGG at MW.

              Same thing with Canelo, Cotto thought he could boss him around and the young buck showed him who really holds the cards. Bradley needs to hold his ground here and demand the really big bucks or threaten to walk.....Cotto will give in, he has very few alternatives at this point.

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                #37
                Originally posted by -MEGA-
                Dirk, your arguments are gay and outlandish. Khan is a ****in b-side that can't even get a fight. He's a ****in begger...

                "I handed devon his 3rd defeat, I'm the best"
                Bradley said he wanted to build his own name and brand. He should do that in fights where he is given equal star billing, like against Khan.

                He's basically known worldwide as that black guy that fought Pacquiao. Then someone goes, "Who? Mayweather?" and you have to say "No....the other one".

                That's how conversations about Tim Bradley will start for years to come.
                Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 02-21-2015, 12:47 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  I don't like it. Bradley jumping from 147 to 155 with no prior pro fights at that weight? Nah, it's a chump move by Cotto to get an advantage. Bradley doesn't have the pop and plus, he loses invaluable speed and agility in making that move. He should force them to have Cotto drop down to 152 to make the fight happen. As it is, all the sacrifice is on Bradley's part, Cotto risks essentially nothing which is far from a fair trade imo.

                  Drop to 152, no belt at stake. Otherwise, if it's at 155, I want 10 million plus 40% of all PPV revenue....take it or leave it.
                  This is suspect bro

                  What actual incentive is there for Bradley to fight at 152 - Bradley goes into this fight in my opinion with ZERO sacrifice. He's in a win win position. He gets a chance at the MW championship against a past-prime, similar sized guy who use to fight at JWW. This isn't a big jump for Bradley. He isn't going to 160 and fighting a guy naturally 180 sucking down to 160. This is a crazy statement. Bradley isn't in any position to "force" Cotto to do anything as Cotto will make 5M fighting whoever he feels like, wheras Bradley has to be strategically placed with a money maker to make money.

                  If Bradley loses, well he was most likely the underdog, no sweat off his back and if he wins - he'll have wins over Cotto, Pac, JMM all championship fights. The dude is playing with house money. What you are proposing would make him sound like a *****

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                    This is suspect bro

                    What actual incentive is there for Bradley to fight at 152 - Bradley goes into this fight in my opinion with ZERO sacrifice. He's in a win win position. He gets a chance at the MW championship against a past-prime, similar sized guy who use to fight at JWW. This isn't a big jump for Bradley. He isn't going to 160 and fighting a guy naturally 180 sucking down to 160. This is a crazy statement. Bradley isn't in any position to "force" Cotto to do anything as Cotto will make 5M fighting whoever he feels like, wheras Bradley has to be strategically placed with a money maker to make money.

                    If Bradley loses, well he was most likely the underdog, no sweat off his back and if he wins - he'll have wins over Cotto, Pac, JMM all championship fights. The dude is playing with house money. What you are proposing would make him sound like a *****
                    Um, or Bradley says no thanks, makes a few mill at 147 fighting Rios or someone else for a WW title. What is Cotto going to do, who is he going to fight at this stage in his career that meets his requirements? Cotto wants a big name and a big name only but he wants that name only to be a guy who is moving up in weight.

                    All Bradley has to gain out of that is a MW belt. That is great and all but why would he go for that, move up in weight, be the B side, and come in at a weight that would sacrifice his attributes? He could be the A side, win a WW title, make millions and not have to move anywhere.

                    Cotto has a few guys at MW who could make him a great fight as it is.....AT MW, WHERE HE HAS A BELT.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Same thing with Canelo, Cotto thought he could boss him around and the young buck showed him who really holds the cards. Bradley needs to hold his ground here and demand the really big bucks or threaten to walk.....Cotto will give in, he has very few alternatives at this point.
                      ?

                      Canelo tried to push Cotto to fight on a date that was going to Mayweather - otherwise if Cotto had gone through, he'd be fighting May 9th in some stadium. If Canelo showed some maturity and patience, he'd be fighting in MSG. The Mecca > generic stadium

                      Canelo was just served today

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