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  • Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
    An era is a length of time, not how old someone was during a period of time. You an el angel have a very odd way of defining eras lol.
    Under 40 isn't a specific amount of time? When I think of the current era of fighting, I think Manny/Floyd era. Another era would be Oscar/Tito/Mosley/Hopkins in the late 90's early 2000's. The heavyweights like Holyfield/Lewis/Tyson is another era bout the late 80's to mid 90's. Before that it was the Durans/Leonards...

    That's how I look at an era, Cotto is one of the best fighters in the Manny/Pac era of fighting. If you want to judge it based on may 3 @ 1:32 AM of 1995 until some other ****** time, fine. Judge it how you want, I could care less.

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    • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
      Under 40 isn't a specific amount of time? When I think of the current era of fighting, I think Manny/Floyd era. Another era would be Oscar/Tito/Mosley/Hopkins in the late 90's early 2000's. The heavyweights like Holyfield/Lewis/Tyson is another era bout the late 80's to mid 90's. Before that it was the Durans/Leonards...

      That's how I look at an era, Cotto is one of the best fighters in the Manny/Pac era of fighting. If you want to judge it based on may 3 @ 1:32 AM of 1995 until some other ****** time, fine. Judge it how you want, I could care less.
      You're doing the same thing el angel did. You're saying guys under 40 because it excludes Hopkins. He fought right through Miguel's era, he's part of it. Anyway;
      Ward
      Floyd
      PAC
      Hopkins
      Wlad

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      • Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
        You're doing the same thing el angel did. You're saying guys under 40 because it excludes Hopkins. He fought right through Miguel's era, he's part of it. Anyway;
        Ward
        Floyd
        PAC
        Hopkins
        Wlad
        Count Hopkins, why do I care. Ward being up there is possibly the biggest joke I've seen in my life. Winning a tournament is as good as becoming a 4 time division champ? Winning a tournament without a single P4P fighter is the same as beating two P4P fighters in Mosley and Martinez? Good to know.

        Wards best wins are home decisions with dirty refs and draining guys down 7 pounds. He should be remembered during the era, but it's for his commentary not his fighting. Also, you define "era" as a period of time yet Andre is up there for only doing anything meaningful in a 2 year period lol.

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        • El Blanco speaks the truth. He's a bad ass Rican ....maybe because he's a real man, and not a maricon like the rest of these knee takers. Anywho... Cotto is a bum. Kermit Cintron is better than this scum bag.

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          • No, he isn't overated.

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            • Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
              Elaborate...please.
              He's arguing that Hopkins is a fighter of Cotto's era. Era is a period of time. For some reason, when you rate Hopkins in this era, you include all his wins from years' past, even though he started fighting 13 years before Cotto so he's going to have an obvious advantage in regard to how many more opponents he could have fought.

              Just like ranking Muhammad Ali in Holmes era essentially. He's arguing that because Hopkins had big fights when Cotto had big fights they are from some era, so since Ali had big fights with Holmes and Berbick then, he's from that era. Then we include all Ali's earlier wins, he's the greatest fighter of Holmes era. See the problem here?

              El Blanco, name more that are better than the KING from this era. You said you had plenty more. Shoot.

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              • Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                An era is a length of time, not how old someone was during a period of time. You an el angel have a very odd way of defining eras lol.
                When he started his career is what matters. The age is obviously going to correlate with that, but that's irrelevant.

                Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                You're doing the same thing el angel did. You're saying guys under 40 because it excludes Hopkins. He fought right through Miguel's era, he's part of it. Anyway;
                Ward
                Floyd
                PAC
                Hopkins
                Wlad
                Then you should only include his bouts from the period of time Cotto has been fighting "big fights" as you say. Hopkins has a 13 year advantage to fight more opponents to and bolster his resume.

                That's like ranking Duran in Hopkins era because they both fought during the same time period. It's when you started your career.

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                • Yes. Cotto is a very good fighter but he is not leagues above of plenty of fighters and wll be beat by quiet a few from 160-147 and will be competeive with even more

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                  • Cotto's understanding of boxing fundamentals has allowed him to achieve what he has. I think he is a strong contender in any era.

                    Imagine Cotto paired with Cus D'Amato.

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                    • Cotto is one of the best of his generation after Floyd/Pacquaio. Not overrated.

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