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  • as much as i love him, i think marquez's time at the top of the sport has passed. there are several guys at welterweight i'd make favourites to beat him now. i don't have a problem with canelo making it onto the bottom of the list, but not many people would pick him to beat golovkin and according to the p4p concept, shouldn't that put triple g above him? kovalev's omission is criminal.

    i prefer the boxingscene list, even though it also affords old marquez slightly too much respect.

    off the top of my head, my list would be:

    1. mayweather
    2. pacquiao
    3. rigondeaux
    4. gonzalez
    5. klitschko
    6. kovalev
    7. golovkin
    8. inoue
    9. estrada
    10. walters

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    • Bradley and Marquez shouldn't be on the list.

      Canelo at 9 or 10 I have no problem with him on there, he's been fighting top fighters the last 2 years. He's supposed to be some bum yet the only guy who clearly beat him is Mayweather.

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      • Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
        Bradley and Marquez shouldn't be on the list.

        Canelo at 9 or 10 I have no problem with him on there, he's been fighting top fighters the last 2 years. He's supposed to be some bum yet the only guy who clearly beat him is Mayweather.
        The only guy Canelo CLEARLY beat at 154 were Angulo and Lopez, good to know you think that's P4P material lol.

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        • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
          The only guy Canelo CLEARLY beat at 154 were Angulo and Lopez, good to know you think that's P4P material lol.


          I thought he clearly beat trout and his fight against Lara was close either way.

          You can say what you want about Canelo but he's fighting and beating young lions while trying to make the best fights possible.

          It's comical that a cotto fan would try to shit on Canelo when miguelito doesn't want anything to do with the overrated red head.

          Maybe if Canelo injures his leg or eye or both miguelito might finally make the fight happen instead of acting like a bitch made diva.

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          • Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
            I thought he clearly beat trout and his fight against Lara was close either way.

            You can say what you want about Canelo but he's fighting and beating young lions while trying to make the best fights possible.

            It's comical that a cotto fan would try to shit on Canelo when miguelito doesn't want anything to do with the overrated red head.

            Maybe if Canelo injures his leg or eye or both miguelito might finally make the fight happen instead of acting like a bitch made diva.

            That's why Canelo left the table and not Cotto then? You're giving credit for Canelo fighting "the best" for the last 2 years. Cotto's been doing it for 10, go away I'm done with you.

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            • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
              That's why Canelo left the table and not Cotto then? You're giving credit for Canelo fighting "the best" for the last 2 years. Cotto's been doing it for 10, go away I'm done with you.
              after 3 months on that table he had no reason to stay...

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              • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                That's why Canelo left the table and not Cotto then? You're giving credit for Canelo fighting "the best" for the last 2 years. Cotto's been doing it for 10, go away I'm done with you.
                Cotto fights the best and gets his ass beat time after time, that's why he picks on cripples and handicaps. There's a reason that Cotto has twice been offered monster paydays against Canelo but somehow finds a way to turn it down. Yet the delusional faction of the PR fanbase like yourself can't see whats going on with Cotto's jizz blurring your vision.

                It's like you're proud that your hero acts like school girl diva trying to emulate Floyd with his constant bullshit demands while wearing yoga pants.

                And yes Canelo gets credit because he actually wins against the best, Cotto fights the best but his best win is Mosley almost 10 years ago and since then he's beaten cripples and blind men.

                Hopefully the fight happens and we quit hearing about a side b side bullshit when his last ppv didn't even break 300k.

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                • Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
                  Cotto fights the best and gets his ass beat time after time, that's why he picks on cripples and handicaps. There's a reason that Cotto has twice been offered monster paydays against Canelo but somehow finds a way to turn it down. Yet the delusional faction of the PR fanbase like yourself can't see whats going on with Cotto's jizz blurring your vision.

                  It's like you're proud that your hero acts like school girl diva trying to emulate Floyd with his constant bullshit demands while wearing yoga pants.

                  And yes Canelo gets credit because he actually wins against the best, Cotto fights the best but his best win is Mosley almost 10 years ago and since then he's beaten cripples and blind men.

                  Hopefully the fight happens and we quit hearing about a side b side bullshit when his last ppv didn't even break 300k.

                  You need to get your facts straight...

                  Cotto turned down 10 million to face Canelo, by making 8.5 million against Martinez and became the FIRST 4 divisional champion from PR. If you think that's a duck, you're a ****ing idiot. Cotto would be favored or even against Canelo, he was a 3-1 underdog against Martinez and you picked him to lose.

                  It's also openly known that Cotto wants Mayweather so he was waiting for May/Pac to resolve itself, WHILE STILL negotiating with Canelo who said IN VEGAS ONLY and ONLY on May 2nd. Those are Canelo's conditions...

                  Now it's looking like May/Pac will happen on May 2nd and you were expecting Cotto to sign a date to fight Canelo when May/Pac would fight. Get your emotions out of the period cycle and just use your brain for a second. Canelo tried to play hardball and now will be fighting on HBO for free, not the date he wanted or the opponent he wanted. He left the table not Cotto... only one guy ducked this last time and it wasn't Cotto.

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                  • Originally posted by icha View Post
                    after 3 months on that table he had no reason to stay...
                    Yeah he did... 1 million for Kirkland or at least 10 million for Cotto. You're telling me you wouldn't wait for another 3 months to make 10 times the money? Stop ****ing defending this little diva my God... All he wanted was May 2 and he still isn't going to fight on that date anyway, lmao. But he's the A-side right?

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                    • Originally posted by icha View Post
                      after 3 months on that table he had no reason to stay...
                      Is the "redhead" fighting cinco de mayo weekend like he wanted to?

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