The Greatest Fighter of Our Era?

[ButtScratcher^^]

but pernell has argument for skills AND resume.

how is he the odd man out?


chavez! mcgirt! azumah!

those are HOFers.

The closest thing you could make a case for pernell is his skill; but even then, to the casual fans, floyd is the more skillful of the two. Achievement clearly belongs to pacquiao no-contest, sheer physical gifts and attributes belongs Roy Jones Jr. no-contest.

Thus as far as the bragging rights of who's who is the greatest fighter of this era, pernell is the odd man out here, out of the candidates mentioned in the poll, because he doesn't have a single dominating characteristic from the group to make a case so.

The other fighters you mentioned isn't in the poll.

[IronDanHamza]

Why are you purposely leaving out the fact that MAB turned professional at 16 years old?

By the time he faced Pac he was 13 years in. Why are you refusing to comprehend this?

If Bernard Hopkins began his pro career at age 16, do you think he'd still be fighting today at age 50? I doubt it.

Off topic but there's no doubt Hopkins wouldn't have fought until 50.

Hopkins didnt fight at World level until 28. He's considered "green" at age 28. That's why he's managed to fight so long.

Same as all late starters, they hit their prime late. Sergio Martinez, late starter, hit his prime at 35.

Carl Froch another one, turned pro at 25 hit his prime at about 35.

Then you look at Wilfred Benitez he was fighting at the top level at 17 years old and was shot before he was 30.

It's all about levels as opposed to age. Age is just a number.

[Left Hook Tua]

Why are you purposely leaving out the fact that MAB turned professional at 16 years old?

By the time he faced Pac he was 13 years in. Why are you refusing to comprehend this?

If Bernard Hopkins began his pro career at age 16, do you think he'd still be fighting today at age 50? I doubt it.

pac fought at 16. was he old at 29?

everyone ages differently.

barrera was #1 in his weight class and #3 p4p.

[pasawayako]

what about losing to Erik Morales, who subsequently lost to Zahir Raheem, before beating him twice. What about drawing and losing to JMM who got shutout by Floyd. Doesn't who you lost to and when you lost to them count when evaluating a fighter's resume?

The eric morales that give floyd a beating on their sparring that's why floyd was so happy watching at the ringside when pac was winning the fight against morales.

[The Big Dunn]

pac was not suppose to win barrera fight.

as a pac fan i was just hoping he was competitive, make some money and go back down to 122.

i thought pac was too small for 126. go figure.

morales rematches was needed. plus it was money.

plus there's something about rematching a guy who beat you.

I too thought Manny would lose. Barrera wasn't supposed to win the Hamed fight. So while Barrera gets all the credit for a huge upset-the Hamed fight returned him to the upper echelon.

As for Morales, I had hoped he'd have fought Zahir after the 1st morales fight but I understand completely why it didn't happen.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The closest thing you could make a case for pernell is his skill; but even then, to the casual fans, floyd is the more skillful of the two. Achievement clearly belongs to pacquiao no-contest, sheer physical gifts and attributes belongs Roy Jones Jr. no-contest.

Thus as far as the bragging rights of who's who is the greatest fighter of this era, pernell is the odd man out here, out of the candidates mentioned in the poll, because he doesn't have a single dominating characteristic from the group to make a case so.

The other fighters you mentioned isn't in the poll.

Whitaker is arguably the most skilled in that group and also has the superior resume, I didn't vote because Tua said 1990s+, that would eliminate his wins over Haugen, Mayweather and Ramirez which would be too crucial.

[Left Hook Tua]

The closest thing you could make a case for pernell is his skill; but even then, to the casual fans, floyd is the more skillful of the two. Achievement clearly belongs to pacquiao no-contest, sheer physical gifts and attributes belongs Roy Jones Jr. no-contest.

Thus as far as the bragging rights of who's who is the greatest fighter of this era, pernell is the odd man out here, out of the candidates mentioned in the poll, because he doesn't have a single dominating characteristic from the group to make a case so.

The other fighters you mentioned isn't in the poll.

the other guys i mentioned....

mcgirt, chavez, azumah nelson were hofers pernell beat.

[New England]

other than jermain taylor?

[The Big Dunn]

The eric morales that give floyd a beating on their sparring that's why floyd was so happy watching at the ringside when pac was winning the fight against morales.

Sparring, really. ok. and you exaggerate what happened. Typical pac fan.

[Left Hook Tua]

I too thought Manny would lose. Barrera wasn't supposed to win the Hamed fight. So while Barrera gets all the credit for a huge upset-the Hamed fight returned him to the upper echelon.

As for Morales, I had hoped he'd have fought Zahir but I understand completely why it didn't happen.

pac was never suppose to fight raheem.

some ppl thought it was some kind of eliminator or something.

they were just tuneups.

morales was trying out 135.

i think he thought he would just beat pac again and move up after.

pac didn't try 135 til years later.