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  • #51
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    actually only like 3-4 of those guys had better resumes than turducken
    Turducken? hahahahahahahahaha

    A chicken inside a duck. Unreal

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    • #52
      Hopkins, Morales, Chavez are greater than wlad and Lewis...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        I get your point-but Castillo was the best LW in the world, a southpaw (which is often cited as problematic for Floyd), and that was the 1st 2 fights Floyd had at that weight.

        Is there a more difficult way to step into a new division?
        against marco antonio barrera at 126 in 2003

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
          for a couple fighters....

          ppl have different birthdays/bodies/careers.

          not everyone is prime at the same time.

          it's not like everyone roy/pea fought was at their peak.
          No. But their best wins are against hall of fame, pound for pound ranked fighters who were at or close to their peaks.

          Pac has Barrera, MAYBE Marquez depending on if you think he actually won and possibly Cotto if you think he was the same fighter after the Margarito beating.

          Floyd has Corrales, Castillo and Hatton.

          I'll take Chavez, Nelson, McGirt, Toney and Hopkins (all ranked p4p with the exception of Hopkins at the time) over Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Barrera and Marquez.

          Pretty much the rest of the resumes are against top contenders/title holders but nothing to separate one over the other.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
            Turducken? hahahahahahahahaha

            A chicken inside a duck. Unreal
            a duck inside a chicken covered in turd

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
              sweet pea and roy can't match pac and floyd's resume imo

              superior technical (pernell) and natural (roy) skills YES.

              but legacy wise they're inferior to pac and floyd.
              Whitaker was the first undisputed lightweight champion since Duran.I don't think there has been one since. He also didn't clearly or truly lose a fight until he fought Trinidad at 35 and cleary washed up.

              Still managed to go the distance against a murderous much younger puncher.

              His legacy is nothing to dismiss.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                against marco antonio barrera at 126 in 2003
                Barrera had definitely resurrected his career and reputation by beating Hamed so thoroughly.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  I get your point-but Castillo was the best LW in the world, a southpaw (which is often cited as problematic for Floyd), and that was the 1st 2 fights Floyd had at that weight.

                  Is there a more difficult way to step into a new division?
                  Jose Luis Castillo is not a southpaw

                  Dunn going all out to slurp Floyd's man milk again

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by PBP View Post
                    No. But their best wins are against hall of fame, pound for pound ranked fighters who were at or close to their peaks.

                    Pac has Barrera, MAYBE Marquez depending on if you think he actually won and possibly Cotto if you think he was the same fighter after the Margarito beating.

                    Floyd has Corrales, Castillo and Hatton.

                    I'll take Chavez, Nelson, McGirt, Toney and Hopkins (all ranked p4p with the exception of Hopkins at the time) over Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Barrera and Marquez.

                    Pretty much the rest of the resumes are against top contenders/title holders but nothing to separate one over the other.
                    like i said pea/roy has 2-3 names that pop out but floyd/pac had more lesser names.

                    if you choose to not to consider them, that's your opinion. i have mine. OVERALL resume for me goes to pac/floyd. pea could have surpassed both easily with his other big names but he didn't come thru. roy just had no one 175. dariusz would have helped.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      Whitaker was the first undisputed lightweight champion since Duran.I don't think there has been one since. He also didn't clearly or truly lose a fight until he fought Trinidad at 35 and cleary washed up.

                      Still managed to go the distance against a murderous much younger puncher.

                      His legacy is nothing to dismiss.
                      not dismissing it.

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