Wilder vs the Valuev that fought Haye?

[Cutthroat]

I don't see half the fighter Haye is in Wilder.

He's taller that's literally it. Valuev was much taller and they're about equally awkward. Valuev late stoppage.

Haye would box circles around Wilder.

Nearly loses to John Ruiz & 80 year old Holyfield lmao, but he's gonna stop the hyper athletic American HW champion Wilder?

You should tell us how great Ruiz and Holyfield were in '05 and '08, must've been world class fighters.

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valuev is more elegant and nimble than wilder

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Damn you guys are overrating the shit out of Valuev, he was slow, uncoordinated, easy to hit. Wilder has great reflexes, that's why he wasn't getting hit against Stiverne, he was moving out of the way at the last second, he's not helpless defensively.

You guys do realize the great John Ruiz nearly beat him in '05 right? 3 years later old man Holyfield arguably beat him in '08.

Wilder would tee off on his head all day long, he punches harder than Haye and can land his punches much easier.

This post makes no sense. Wilder has done nothing to illustrate that he's in the same league as elderly versions of Ruiz or Haye, much less Holyfield. He's had one meaningful fight and it didn't impress. He teed off on a lumpy opponent he couldn't finish and got caught a few times along the way. So far, that's his career. You can speculate about how awesome he is and how he tastes but in reality, that's his career up to this point.

You've said in the past that you love him because he reminds you of basketball players or some ****, which is weird, but yeah this is a boxing forum.

[Cutthroat]

This post makes no sense. Wilder has done nothing to illustrate that he's in the same league as elderly versions of Ruiz or Haye, much less Holyfield. He's had one meaningful fight and it didn't impress. He teed off on a lumpy opponent he couldn't finish and got caught a few times along the way. So far, that's his career. You can speculate about how awesome he is and how he tastes but in reality, that's his career up to this point.

You've said in the past that you love him because he reminds you of basketball players or some ****, which is weird, but yeah this is a boxing forum.

This guy thinks Ruiz & 90 year old Holyfield are levels ahead of Wilder lmao.

Practically every time we're debating something you bring up basketball players, then you start talking about how you fantasize about them, the **** is wrong with you dude.

[alexguiness]

Haye could KO Wilder IMO.

Haye throw's a lot more than somebody like Stiverne and has much better movement and speed.

Fury would test Wilder - but I believe the stronger chin would win the fight and I am not sold on Fury's chin (or Wilders)

Either Klitch takes Wilder to school.

Wilder is nothing special - he is just an athlete with decent (not great) boxing skills. More experienced and intelligent boxers in shape beat the brakes off him.

[Biolink]

Yet wilder got knocked out in sparring after 2 minutes into their
2nd rd ...
wilder is raw unskillful and relies on one power rt hand
and has no real defense...
imagine wilder fight holyfield or bowe..

damnnnnnn you got knocked the FFFFFFFFFck out!!!!!!!!

His jab looked a whole lot better against Stiverne.

[Monaco Slim]

valuev beats him easily. I love how Wilder is this "expert boxer" because he was able to go 12 rounds with a guy half his size

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This guy thinks Ruiz & 90 year old Holyfield are levels ahead of Wilder lmao.

Practically every time we're debating something you bring up basketball players, then you start talking about how you fantasize about them, the **** is wrong with you dude.

You literally made a thread declaring Wilder to be the most athletic heavyweight of all time on the basis that he plays basketball. How could I forget something so funny?

[Robbie Barrett]

Nearly loses to John Ruiz & 80 year old Holyfield lmao, but he's gonna stop the hyper athletic American HW champion Wilder?

You should tell us how great Ruiz and Holyfield were in '05 and '08, must've been world class fighters.

Ruiz beat Rahman, Oquendo and Golota in the run up to Valuev. That's better than Wilders entire resume.

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^^ Facts ^^