Wilder vs the Valuev that fought Haye?

[damit305]

beast from the east eats Alabama for breakfast.

I rate David Haye then much higher than Wilder at any point so far.

[Spray_resistant]

Wilder is still an awkward unskilled hypejob, Valuev by mid rd stoppage.

[jas]

Wilder by ko

Not even debatable imo

[gmc_rfc_06]

Valuev for me.

I still think Wilder is too open and not skilled enough, but it could go either way. Wilder isn't half the fighter that Haye is.

[Cutthroat]

Haye struggled against tall fighters, Wlad and Valuev. Both fights his offense was practically the same, rarely threw a punch. He's not used to fighting guys that size, heavily inexperienced, he was a CW most of his career.

[yoz]

A horrible fight, but Wilder probably edges it on points. LOL at those saying he'd knock Valuev out.

[yoz]

Valuev for me.

I still think Wilder is too open and not skilled enough, but it could go either way. Wilder isn't half the fighter that Haye is.

This^^^^. Look at the Yanks bigging Wilder up. He's technically inferior to Haye, and some would say they have about the same power

[yoz]

Haye struggled against tall fighters, Wlad and Valuev. Both fights his offense was practically the same, rarely threw a punch. He's not used to fighting guys that size, heavily inexperienced, he was a CW most of his career.

While Wilder has proved himself against cab drivers. Haye is a better all-round fighter than Wilder; that's a fact.

[Cutthroat]

While Wilder has proved himself against cab drivers. Haye is a better all-round fighter than Wilder; that's a fact.

Damn you guys are overrating the shit out of Valuev, he was slow, uncoordinated, easy to hit. Wilder has great reflexes, that's why he wasn't getting hit against Stiverne, he was moving out of the way at the last second, he's not helpless defensively.

You guys do realize the great John Ruiz nearly beat him in '05 right? 3 years later old man Holyfield arguably beat him in '08.

Wilder would tee off on his head all day long, he punches harder than Haye and can land his punches much easier.

[Cut Man]

Horrible fight. But Wilder wins.

Yeah it would not be pretty but Wilder would win. He's athletic, has good movement, good power