Wilder vs the Valuev that fought Haye?

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Ruiz beat Rahman, Oquendo and Golota in the run up to Valuev. That's better than Wilders entire resume.

lmao, Stiverne is far superior to all those fighters and it's not like Wilder even struggled with him. He won a wide UD even though he broke his hand in the 4th round, which up until that point, he was punching through Stiverne's guard and rocking him with every right hand. Oquendo is a journeyman, Golota too extremely chinny, Rahman had been brutally KO'd by Lewis, then stopped against Holyfield, tough fight with Tua, then Ruiz got the leftovers. After that Rahman did nothing but get Ko'd by Maskaev.

Wilder was using a left hook jab combo on Stiverne to hold him off, while defensively he lured him in and kept distance with his reflexes and head movement. Occasionally throwing his right hand but without nearly as much power. Stiverne is a very explosive power puncher.

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You literally made a thread declaring Wilder to be the most athletic heavyweight of all time on the basis that he plays basketball. How could I forget something so funny?

He also played football as well, you failed to produce the names of any fighters that played more than 3 sports. Only Jennings rivals his athleticism, part time banker fighting Wlad lol.

You think it's all just a coincidence he's the HW champ lol.

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Rahman had been brutally KO'd by Lewis, then stopped against Holyfield, tough fight with Tua, then Ruiz got the leftovers. After that Rahman did nothing but get Ko'd by Maskaev

That's also more impressive than Wilder's entire career, thus far, even with you leaving out his Rahman's wins.

Wilder has one meaningful fight against a very poor looking opponent and based on this and the fact that he plays basketball you declared him GOAT.