Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I Can't Wait To Knock Deontay Wilder Out

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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by Cutthroat
    Would bet all my points on Wilder by KO.

    Fury's chin is garbage, he's got heart but that can only go so far against Wilder's power. Guess what punch he got dropped by against Cunningham/Pajkic? An overhand right, Wilder's specialty.


    Fury's entire defense relies on his height, he keeps his left hand VERY low. Most of the time he can simply lean back against shorter fighters, very little head movement, Wilder is the same but his reflexes are far superior.

    Wilder's punching speed will also play a role, he is a very explosive puncher, can't string punches together fast, but a single fast explosive shot. Abell was in range much of the time vs Fury, even rocked him, his speed combined with his size gave him trouble. You can imagine Wilder in the 6'4 Abell's place, Fury wide open for a right hand.

    Wilder also added a left hook, not great but decent. I think it's more than enough to hurt Fury.

    Wilder will be the hardest puncher he's faced, the tallest fighter he's faced, and will have the longest reach of everyone he's faced. Even if he does block it has the potential to go through his guard.

    Wilder by KO in 6.
    Fury is also a more rounded boxer, has better skills. He's taller, heavier, longer reach and better jab. I would also say his left hook is better than Wilder's.

    He also boxes orthodox and southpaw, and does it naturally. I think it's funny when people say Fury has a weak chin, in comparison to Wilder.

    Yes he was dropped. Anyone who lets a 200+ man hit you square in the face will go down. And that's pretty much what Fury did. He was clowning around and paid the price. But in both instances got up and knocked the other guy spark out.

    Fury will also be the hardest puncher Wilder's ever faced. At least that can actually reach him. I commend Wilder for his performance vs Stiverne, he fought him exactly how he was supposed to.

    Stiverne cannot fight going forward because his feet are planted in cement, he also has zero head movement. So Wilder could fight going backwards and just jab him. Easy work.

    Also, I don't agree his defense relies solely on his height. In fact, I would say that's very inaccurate. His footwork, jab and defensive stance have all improved to give him a pretty good defense - at least when he wants to. But he does use his physical tools to his advantage, like any tall man should. But at least he's not afraid of getting into a tear up.

    Also, I don't see how Wilder's defense is in any world better than Fury's.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Cutthroat
      That was Wilder with just 2 years of boxing experience, you do know he was fighting at CW as well right? Any advantage in size/strength was gone, he was a stick at >200lbs. He's gained 20+lbs of muscle since 7 or so years ago, and has proven he could take a punch against one of the hardest hitters in the division.

      We've seen numerous times fighters gain weight and their chin get better because they're not draining themselves. Wilder is another example.
      Yeah he was also dropped by Dustin Nichols the 5'5 365 lbs wrecking ball.

      Fury was 21 & 23 respectively (or close to that) when he fought Pajkic and Cunningham.

      Now he's a fully grown man. Things change you know.

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        #73
        Originally posted by cake_cake_cake
        LMFAO. That clip never gets old.

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          #74
          Respect has to be earned in the fight game. Getting decked by a cruiser weight in not one of the ways to do it.

          If that was the fist of The Bronze Bomber. It's lights out, game over. Its not a matter of "If" Wilder will knock this bum out, It's only a matter of how early in the fight it will happen. That's up to Deontay.

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            #75
            Originally posted by TommyToughNuts
            LMFAO. That clip never gets old.
            Wilder better come to the ring first or else Fury might have knocked himself out before Deontay gets to the ring.

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              #76
              I'll just say this.

              Tyson Fury is the fittest HW on the planet, with the best engine. Even during his early career when he was a fat slob, he still fought for 12 rounds with a very high punch output.

              This new, dedicated, in shape version of Fury will be even more formidable. In his last fight against Chisora, he didn't even look out of breath, he could easily have fought 15 rounds.

              Compare this to Wilder, who looked utterly knackered against Stiverne by the end, and he didn't even have to work that hard against him.

              As for the usual suspects ****ing on about him getting knocked down by USS, if anyone honestly thinks that Tyson Fury would fight Deontay Wilder in the same mindset that he fought Steve Cunningham, then they clearly know nothing about boxing.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                That was Wilder with just 2 years of boxing experience, you do know he was fighting at CW as well right? Any advantage in size/strength was gone, he was a stick at >200lbs. He's gained 20+lbs of muscle since 7 or so years ago, and has proven he could take a punch against one of the hardest hitters in the division.

                We've seen numerous times fighters gain weight and their chin get better because they're not draining themselves. Wilder is another example.
                Ok, so you get it that fighters improve and progress, and should be judged by their careers as a whole, NOT by one bad performance, or lapse of concentration.

                So why not apply that principle to Fury, as well as Wilder? Instead of just watching replays of him being dropped over and over again, look at his last performance, or even at what happened after he got knocked down.

                Maybe you don't even know it, but both times, he got up and stopped his opponents.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Elroy1
                  That Cutman dog should show the proper respect!
                  Originally posted by denium
                  Fury ****ed his sister back in the day.
                  I've noticed, the dumbest people at this forum pop up trolling Tyson Fury threads every time. This is a new member of the twat pack.

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                    #79
                    Real No 2 Alexander Povetkin beats both relatively easy.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Szef
                      Real No 2 Alexander Povetkin beats both relatively easy.
                      I thought Chisora was going to beat Fury relatively easy?

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