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  • kafkod
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    #91
    Originally posted by Szef
    Povetkin's power and combos would be too much. Don't get fooled by the Klitschko fight. Wlad can control mobile opponent with his jab which is superior to Fury's and Wilder's. And even he had some problems with keeping Povetkin on the outside (hence very excessive clinching).

    Plus he clearly has improved since that fight. Both physically and mentally.

    Povetkin is too fast, too skilled and too mentaly tough for those two Twitter stars.

    If any of these matchups ever happens I'm going all in on Povetkin.
    I have a lot of admiration for Povetkin and would definitely see him as favourite to beat Wilder, but not Fury.

    Fury, I think, would use his size and reach to do the same kind of job on Povetkin as he did on Chisora. Sasha would have a punchers chance, of course, but I don't think he would be able to land anything meaningful on Fury at all.

    And one thing you could never accuse Fury of lacking is mental toughness. He has just as much heart as Povetkin, and has proved that on several occasions
    Last edited by kafkod; 02-03-2015, 07:28 AM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by kafkod
      I have a lot of admiration for Povetkin and would definitely see him as favourite to beat Wilder, but not Fury.

      Fury, I think, would use his size and reach to do the same kind of job on Povetkin as he did on Chisora. Sasha would have a punchers chance, of course, but I don't think he would be able to land anything meaningful on Fury at all.

      And one thing you could never accuse Fury of lacking is mental toughness. He has just as much heart as Povetkin, and has proved that on several occasions
      povetkin is much quicker of hand and foot than chisora tho. I think hed have a much better chance of getting inside on fury but I get your point. it would be a tough fight for povetkin but I think hed get to fury in the late rounds after a tough start. hes the best combination puncher in the division and has underrated power imo

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        #93
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Well he'd have to reach them first. Fury has more than 10 inches in reach on Povetkin and is an even bigger man than Wlad. I'm not getting fooled by the Klitschko fight, but I do think if Klitschko had fought him instead of hugged him, Povetkin would have been KO'd.

        I do also give Povetkin all the probs for coming back in devastating fashion, looking really good. But Takam and Charr are not on the same level as Fury and Wilder. Simples. I also still remember the Huck fight.

        As I said, 50/50 fights. Povetkin would encounter a lot of problems with both of the two giants. And he would probably also get some success.

        If they ever fight, I'm down for a bet.



        Whicever way you wish to put it, Chisora had never been on that kind of run vs respected opponents in his career.

        It's Fury's accomplishment that Chisora didn't look good. He took everything away from him and averaged 70 punches a round.

        For a heavyweight!
        Originally posted by kafkod
        I have a lot of admiration for Povetkin and would definitely see him as favourite to beat Wilder, but not Fury.

        Fury, I think, would use his size and reach to do the same kind of job on Povetkin as he did on Chisora. Sasha would have a punchers chance, of course, but I don't think he would be able to land anything meaningful on Fury at all.

        And one thing you could never accuse Fury of lacking is mental toughness. He has just as much heart as Povetkin, and has proved that on several occasions
        Like I said in my previous post, Chisora was decent. I also believe that the version of him that fought Helenius and Vitali would beat Fury IMO.

        I agree with Charr not being on Fury's and Wilder's level but Takam? I wouldn't be so sure.

        Povetkin is smaller than Fury and Wilder, so he would have to get past their jabs of course but they would have to keep him on the outside and I don't think their jabs are good enough to do so. Plus Povetkin has good head movement, he cuts off the ring, he doesn't just follow his opponents like Chisora and Stiverne did. He'd get on the inside, I'm sure of it and that's where he would have a field day with them. His combos and power would be just too much.

        Also, to people who said Fury wouldn't fight ****** like he did in the Cunningham fight, what makes you think that? Fury is a fighter, I give him that, and once he'd get hit flush, I think he would try to hit Sasha back immediatly.

        Need to get back to work gentlemen.
        Last edited by Szef; 02-04-2015, 04:45 AM.

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          #94


          This guy is going to beat Tyson Fury? hahahahahaha

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            #95
            Originally posted by Cut Man
            Tyson Fury is not Lennox Lewis.

            It's not a rivalry. It will be a destruction that will last no longer than 18 minutes

            About 6 rounds at the most before fury is knocked out and wilder moves on to his unification fight with Wlad
            Not that I think it will happen but it will be funny if Fury wins.. what a state todays Heavyweight division is in

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              #96
              Originally posted by Szef
              Like I said in my previous post, Chisora was decent. I also believe that the version of him that fought Helenius and Vitali would beat Fury IMO.

              I agree with Charr not being on Fury's and Wilder's level but Takam? I wouldn't be so sure.

              Povetkin is smaller than Fury and Wilder, so he would have to get past their jabs of course but they would have to keep him on the outside and I don't think their jabs are good enough to do so. Plus Povetkin has good head movement, he cuts off the ring, he doesn't just follow his opponents like Chisora and Stiverne did. He'd get on the inside, I'm sure of it and that's where he would have a field with them. His combos and power would be just too much.

              Also, to people who said wouldn't fight ****** like he did in the Cunningham fight, what makes you think that? Fury is a fighter, I give him that, and once he'd get hit flush, I think he would try to hit Sasha back immediatly.

              Need to get back to work gentlemen.
              Fury DID beat the same Chisora who fought Helanius and Vitali! It was Fury who handed Del Boy his first loss, remember? And that was the old, unfit, brawling Fury, before he linked up with his uncle Peter.

              It's Peter Fury who keeps Tyson training regularly and sticking to the game plan in his fights. That was the problem with the Cunningham fight. Peter Fury couldn't get a visa, and the occasion - it was a world title eliminator and his US debut - went to Tyson's head. He fought like an idiot and found himself on the deck as a result.

              No way would he do that against Povetkin. He would stick to the same game plan he used against Chisora and Sasha would find himself eating jabs and crosses at long range and uppercuts whenever he got in close.

              As I said, Povetkin would have a punchers chance, but the most likely outcome would be a stoppage win for Fury, with Sasha taking too much punishment and facial damage to go the distance. It would be a great fight while it lasted though.
              Last edited by kafkod; 02-03-2015, 09:05 AM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Fury DID beat the same Chisora who fought Helanius and Vitali! It was Fury who handed Del Boy his first loss, remember? And that was the old, unfit, brawling Fury, before he linked up with his uncle Peter.

                It's Peter Fury who keeps Tyson training regularly and sticking to the game plan in his fights. That was the problem with the Cunningham fight. Peter Fury couldn't get a visa, and the occasion - it was a world title eliminator and his US debut - went to Tyson's head. He fought like an idiot and found himself on the deck as a result.

                No way would he do that against Povetkin. He would stick to the same game plan he used against Chisora and Sasha would find himself eating jabs and crosses at long range and uppercuts whenever he got in close.

                As I said, Povetkin would have a punchers chance, but the most likely outcome would be a stoppage win for Fury, with Sasha taking too much punishment and facial damage to go the distance. It would be a great fight while it lasted though.
                Id be shocked if fury stopped povetkin. povetkin has a pretty good chin and is very tough. fury isn't that big a knockout puncher either. I think povetkin has enough hand and foot speed to to get inside of fury and do damage. fury doesn't have that pole of a jab like wlad to keep ovetkin off all night so povetkin wont show the same respect imo. great fight tho and tough for both guys

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by beez721
                  Id be shocked if fury stopped povetkin. povetkin has a pretty good chin and is very tough. fury isn't that big a knockout puncher either. I think povetkin has enough hand and foot speed to to get inside of fury and do damage. fury doesn't have that pole of a jab like wlad to keep ovetkin off all night so povetkin wont show the same respect imo. great fight tho and tough for both guys
                  I wouldn't expect Fury to actually KO Povetkin, but I could see him inflicting the same kind of facial damage he caused to Chisora and forcing a stoppage that way. Del Boy is known for soaking up punishment, but doesn't usually mark up at all, which proves that Fury must have been hitting him hard, as well as often.
                  Povetkin is not as easy to hit as Chisora and more mobile too, but definitely not what you would call an elusive fighter, and Fury's massive height and reach advantages, as well as weight on the inside, would give him all kinds of problems.
                  If he connected with Fury's chin the way he did with Charr and Takam though, that would change everything, and I know he wouldn't stop trying to do just that till the last second of the fight, however long it lasted.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    I wouldn't expect Fury to actually KO Povetkin, but I could see him inflicting the same kind of facial damage he caused to Chisora and forcing a stoppage that way. Del Boy is known for soaking up punishment, but doesn't usually mark up at all, which proves that Fury must have been hitting him hard, as well as often.
                    Povetkin is not as easy to hit as Chisora and more mobile too, but definitely not what you would call an elusive fighter, and Fury's massive height and reach advantages, as well as weight on the inside, would give him all kinds of problems.
                    If he connected with Fury's chin the way he did with Charr and Takam though, that would change everything, and I know he wouldn't stop trying to do just that till the last second of the fight, however long it lasted.
                    yea,,,,fury isn't a huge puncher but at 6'9 250+ lbs your going to do some damage when your throwing 70 punches per round and landing a descent percentage of them. it wont be easy for povetkin but I just feel he has the small edge. I doubt very much he wouldn't have some bruises at the end of the potential fight if it happens

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                      #100
                      Povetkin is the best "short heavyweight" in the division.

                      One thing he lacks that short fighters really need is fast hands and feet. Yes, he's quicker than most heavyweights, but he's not on the level of a Mike Tyson or David Haye.

                      He has an iron chin and good ring IQ so he's particularly dangerous in the late rounds when opponents tend to slow down or become careless.

                      Wilder's athleticism would frustrate Povetkin, and he would take a lot of damage trying to get inside.

                      Fury's weight and mass could be a problem if he decides to clinch Povetkin as Wladimir did.

                      In either fight, Povetkin would take nearly twice as many punches as he gives due to the freakish size differences and his limited pace & speed, considerably less than the small heavyweights of the 90s era.

                      Povetkin has the best chance against Fury, who is known to get overconfident, showboat for the fans, and get careless once he has a big lead in the middle of the fight. That's when Povetkin can catch him off guard and land a big knockout punch.
                      Last edited by SN!PER; 02-03-2015, 01:45 PM.

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