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  • Originally posted by KickedOuttaGQ View Post
    "but bu bu... pac vs vargas is already sign tho.." Floyd fans cant seem to find anyone else to blame but Arum.
    Not just Floyd fans, but Dan Rafael too...Google it. Arum is the reason we are where we are today. That's just the facts (needles, cuts, stadiums, etc.). Manny is part of the blame (he signed with TR and GBP simultaneously) too. So now we have several wars: HBO vs. Showtime, Mayweather vs. Arum, HBO vs. Haymon, Oscar vs. Scahefer. Manny is just a pawn in this game. There are much bigger stakes at risk. IT SUCKS, but it is what it is!

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    • Originally posted by elishua F View Post
      Why not. Floyd/Cotto is a pointless rematch. Khan and Pacman is intriguing becacuse of the hand speed of both. Cotto is a slow plodder, easy win for Floyd, a duck move. Pac/Khan is made bigger if its at Wembley. No debate.
      Because if you take a closer look at Khan you will find that:

      1. He hasnt beaten a top opponent in YEARS, and never even beat a contender at Welter. Why did people conveniently forget what Porter did to Alexander already?

      2. No one, at all, expects Khan to be able to take Manny's shots.

      3. Khan still has no footwork. Big no-no against Manny.

      4. Khan still has no head movement. Big no-no against Manny.

      6. Manny has fought guys with hand speed before. It didnt mean much. Thats not how you beat Manny.

      5. A Wembley crowd for a boxing match makes a nice spectacle, but it doesnt magically make Khan a better fighter.

      6. If Floyd was to fight Cotto, at 160, making it him a legit MW Champ, that would be undeniable history.
      Last edited by AllBoxingAD; 01-27-2015, 07:20 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Not just Floyd fans, but Dan Rafael too...Google it. Arum is the reason we are where we are today. That's just the facts (needles, cuts, stadiums, etc.). Manny is part of the blame (he signed with TR and GBP simultaneously) too. So now we have several wars: HBO vs. Showtime, Mayweather vs. Arum, HBO vs. Haymon, Oscar vs. Scahefer. Manny is just a pawn in this game. There are much bigger stakes at risk. IT SUCKS, but it is what it is!
        But every Floyd fans are blaming the pawn before these days.

        And Floyd zero is the much bigger stake at risk here.

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        • Originally posted by Fetta View Post
          Cause he is the head honcho out in the front lines lying.

          All the hoopla changed once Espinoza checked him
          Espinoza didn't say sht except suck Floyd's ****..because Haymon and Floyd basically punked him into tweeting that message to save face...

          Floyd v. Cotto 2 will be boycotted...I hope it happens.. Floyd ducked Manny when Manny was in his prime at least 3 years ago... no reason for that fight to happen now that Manny isn't in his prime anymore... Floyd was never serious about making the Pac fight and got lucky Arum got egotistical with the blood-testing.. that $40 mil offer was a joke and that was the last real chance Floyd had to secure his legacy and make the fight... now it's over.. let's all move on.. fight means nothing now for Floyd's legacy..

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          • Originally posted by KillerJones View Post
            There would definitely be interest. Floyd and Cotto have a big fan base, and most fans would be interested in seeing if Cotto could KO Floyd this time.

            It's not going to happen, because there is just too much pressure to make Pac Floyd happen, but Floyd Cotto 2 would sell well enough, no doubt. In a vacuum, it's a good fight.
            Wont break 600k buys if they fight next.

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            • Pac was never going to fight Floyd smoke and screens if they fight con I hope pac losses

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              • Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View Post
                Espinoza didn't say sht except suck Floyd's ****..because Haymon and Floyd basically punked him into tweeting that message to save face...

                Floyd v. Cotto 2 will be boycotted...I hope it happens.. Floyd ducked Manny when Manny was in his prime at least 3 years ago... no reason for that fight to happen now that Manny isn't in his prime anymore... Floyd was never serious about making the Pac fight and got lucky Arum got egotistical with the blood-testing.. that $40 mil offer was a joke and that was the last real chance Floyd had to secure his legacy and make the fight... now it's over.. let's all move on.. fight means nothing now for Floyd's legacy..
                I bet you do

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                • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  Not just Floyd fans, but Dan Rafael too...Google it. Arum is the reason we are where we are today. That's just the facts (needles, cuts, stadiums, etc.). Manny is part of the blame (he signed with TR and GBP simultaneously) too. So now we have several wars: HBO vs. Showtime, Mayweather vs. Arum, HBO vs. Haymon, Oscar vs. Scahefer. Manny is just a pawn in this game. There are much bigger stakes at risk. IT SUCKS, but it is what it is!
                  Last I checked Arum wasn't the one who denied negotiations and offer $40 mil Flat... I don't blame Arum at all..Floyd is the one who offered $40 mil flat when the fight could have been made... that proves he was not serious about making the fight... even the blood-testing doens't prove sht back in 2010..no proof Floyd would have signed even if Manny agreed...

                  Floyd had his chance to secure his legacy and what did he do? He made a low-ball slap in the face offer... so that's his legacy...

                  Fight lost it's appeal 3 years ago...

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                  • I'm okay with Mayweather vs Cotto 2. Make it happen, Floyd.

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                    • Look at the crap that Arum give boxing. This weekends mixmatch that he sold to HBO, Tim Bradley robbery, and countless other scares to boxing. And you expect him to give up PAC to Mayweather? This scumbag likes money more than fans. Forget it. PAC will only fight B and C class opponents like khan etc,.

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