Is it possible to UFCise boxing?

[Eastcoast]

Not if what Hauser wrote is true.

If he's right about Moonves, and Pac-May doesn't happen, then Haymon would be out there on a limb without either HBO or SHO...which would make this entire thing much more risky.

SHO has had a long working relationship with Gary Shaw...there's a potential avenue for Roc Nation to get it's foot in the door in a hurry.

That could be a wrench in Haymon's machine. If that's true and it holds, it forces Haymon to rely on his warchest more than he intended. Showtime was giving him about $25mill per year.

[Da Machine]

He doesn't want PPV because PPV is dying. Money is in regular tv now with sponsor and endorsements, etc.

He's paying for his guys to get airtime and put up numbers to prove boxing can draw. His hopes are for someone to offer a big tv contract in the next few years.

[Furn]

From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model.
That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from.
This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind...

He must have an endgame plan because he's not gonna make enough from ad revenue to pay these fighters long term.

I think his plan is to expose his fighters to a wider audience to grow their brand and take a loss financially and then down the track have them fight each other on Ppv

[BattleAxePurist]

Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates:
Keith Thurman
Errole Spence
Ivegen Khytrov
Mickey Bey

IMO you can only sell boxing to a certain point then you have to have attractions (stars) w/o them people will tune out bcse it's Boxing.

One delusion that boxing fans have is that bcse they enjoy watching it then everyone else would if it were more available but I'm not so sure that's true this NBC deal will either debunk that or prove it.

I expect it to do well early but once the initial buzz/novelty of it wears off then what... can they really build the sport/fighters or was it just a experiment.

[MDPopescu]

He must have an endgame plan because he's not gonna make enough from ad revenue to pay these fighters long term.

I think his plan is to expose his fighters to a wider audience to grow their brand and take a loss financially and then down the track have them fight each other on Ppv

To date, Haymon turned his young "prospects" into lazy cats...

The great PPV fighters (past and present) used to fight like hell to reach at their stardom status... Now compare them with Danny Garcia or Chavez Jr as they are today...

[MrRolltide91]

can nbc have their own ppv?

[Larry the boss]

Now let me get this out of the way...IT IS ****ING ******!!!!!!!!!!!

[MDPopescu]

Now let me get this out of the way...IT IS ****ING ******!!!!!!!!!!!

The bare fact that we don't understand things doesn't make them ******.
But what was it that turned you so angry?

[MDPopescu]

can nbc have their own ppv?

I don't know how your TV channels actually operate -- NBC, S.pike TV and BET TV in this particular case...

But from what I've learned recently, the PPV (as we know it) seems not to be a viable business model any longer.

[MDPopescu]

Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates:
Keith Thurman
Errole Spence
Ivegen Khytrov
Mickey Bey

... and the time goes by... doe