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  • DeadLikeMe
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    #31
    Sure, and then just like UFC the smaller fish will still have fighters. These fighters will KTFO bums, cab drivers, and Frank Shamrocks one after the next and fans will **** on the top guy's resumes and point to the guys with no resumes and proclaim them the best....so well, it'll basically still be boxing.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Furn
      It's could be done but I don't think Al Haymon could do it alone.

      It would need a huge amount of money to set up and I'm not sure it would be profitable because you would need to pay overs to a lot of fighters to get them to join initially.

      Once u had all the best fighters signed up then you would have the upper hand as fighters will want to join up to fight in the big competition lie with UFC.

      Once Floyd and mAnny retire it could be doable, our could sign every good fighter on say 3 year deals for a few hundred million. Just need a billionaire backer.
      OK: the start up money aren't the problem. But I ask myself who's going to feed money in order to sustain such an ambitious enterprise?

      ... Well, once Mayweather and Pacquiao will retire the purses will suffer a steep fall, I guess... But this might take at least two years... meanwhile the "young lions" will ask for big money...

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        #33
        bout to find out

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        • Furn
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          #34
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          OK: the start up money aren't the problem. But I ask myself who's going to feed money in order to sustain such an ambitious enterprise?

          ... Well, once Mayweather and Pacquiao will retire the purses will suffer a steep fall, I guess... But this might take at least two years... meanwhile the "young lions" will ask for big money...
          Well the UFC is based around ppv. So that's goingto be the challenge. Could you put on say 8 ppv cards a year that would average say 400k buys assuming you had 90 of the top 100 p4p guys and could make them fight who u wanted but not pac or Floyd. ?

          That would be the challenge.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Furn
            Well the UFC is based around ppv. So that's goingto be the challenge. Could you put on say 8 ppv cards a year that would average say 400k buys assuming you had 90 of the top 100 p4p guys and could make them fight who u wanted but not pac or Floyd. ?

            That would be the challenge.
            From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model.
            That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from.
            This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind...

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              #36
              What are Silva and Jones getting paid? Is there anyone making more than them?

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                What are Silva and Jones getting paid? Is there anyone making more than them?
                Do I have to understand that Danny is Silva and Wilder is Jones?

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                • BattleAxePurist
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model.
                  That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from.
                  This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind...
                  There's a reason Haymon doesn't want PPV he doesn't have any PPV fighters granted there aren't many of those so his basis is major network success or hope Showtime will take him back.

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                  • Mitchell Kane
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    HBO is quickly becoming the sole resistance to Haymon's power move.
                    Not if what Hauser wrote is true.

                    If he's right about Moonves, and Pac-May doesn't happen, then Haymon would be out there on a limb without either HBO or SHO...which would make this entire thing much more risky.

                    SHO has had a long working relationship with Gary Shaw...there's a potential avenue for Roc Nation to get it's foot in the door in a hurry.
                    Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 01-26-2015, 09:24 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BattleAxePurist
                      There's a reason Haymon doesn't want PPV he doesn't have any PPV fighters granted there aren't many of those so his basis is major network success or hope Showtime will take him back.
                      Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates:
                      Keith Thurman
                      Errole Spence
                      Ivegen Khytrov
                      Mickey Bey

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