Would defeating Margarito have done anything for Mayweathers legacy in retrospect

[radioraheem]

Random idea. Completely off the top of my head here but.....couldn't he have fought them all?

None of these guys could have fought everyone. Not a single one. It's just not possible. There will always be a solid fighter left out of the resume of any great fighter.

[radioraheem]

Horus

What does Margarito's wraps have to do with Mayweather not fighting him?

His entire resume, especially the key wins, comes under question. When Cotto was questioning him, accusing him, Margarito gave no ****s! He totally was on some 'so what' type of attitude.

[radioraheem]

"The only things that are allowed in hand wraps are gauze and tape and those items aren't gauze and tape."

Fresh gauze is supposed to be used for each fight

CSAC Rule 323 limits the amount and type of gauze and tape allowed under a fighter's boxing glove.

Rule 390 allows CSAC to discipline a licensee when his or her actions are a 'discredit to boxing' or violate the rules of CSAC.

Commission Chairman: Tim Noonan said the inquiry stems from a commission rule that limits the amount and type of gauze and tape allowed under a fighter's glove. He said the commission has authority to discipline athletes when their actions are a "discredit to boxing."

Inspector: Mike Bray, said during questioning that he had seen the pads and that they were "moist and dirty looking with a white substance smeared across the pad, like a cast plaster."

A California Department of Justice senior criminalist who inspected the wrappings under a stereomicroscope and with an X-ray fluorescence spectrometer determined the wraps contained sulfur and calcium, according to a document obtained by the Times. Those two elements, with the addition of oxygen, make plaster of Paris.

Sulfur + Calcium + Oxygen = Plaster of Paris.

Plaster of Paris is a type of building material based on calcium sulphate hemihydrate, nominally CaSO4·1/2H2O. It is created by heating gypsum to about 150 °C

Plaster of Paris only requires mixing with water to activate

Margarito's Wraps FACTS
1. Moist (water to activate)
2. White substance smeared across the pad, like a cast plaster.
3. The wraps when tested had the ingrediance of sulfur + Caluim(Sulfur + Calcium + Oxygen = Plaster of Paris.)
4. They were hardening
5. Capetillo used old gauze. NOT NEW ones


BASED ON THE FACTS:
Margarito Wraps were a discredit to boxing, evidence has proven that his wraps contained the elements of Plaster of Paris.
Margarito to this day, has yet to sue or publicly denouned Capetillo. Which should be viewed at the very least su****ious since he claims this man has single handly detroyed his career.

Margarito has yet to take a lie detector test which is also shocking since you would think he would do everything possible to prove his innocence.


RULE:Fresh gauze is supposed to be used for each MAIN EVENT fight
Margarito: Capetillo used old gauze.
STRIKE 1

RULE:The only things that are allowed in hand wraps are gauze and tape
Margarito:The wraps were moist, bloodly, hardening, and when tested had the ingrediance of sulfur + Caluim.
STRIKE 2

RULE:Bandages shall be adjusted in the dressing room in the presence of a commission representative and both contestants.
Margarito:Cepetillo had already wrap Margarito right hand before ****m even entered the room.
STIKE 3

Margarito was ruled Out.

a good amount of posters on this forum have now came up with a theory that margarito hands wrap since they had traces of sulfur + calcium were used for hand lotion instead of a weapon. At first i thought it was a joke, but continuing to read this argument over and over i now feel i must addresss this head on. I will make this point for all of you.

**** buffman, texstro,el 7 mares v.2 =


here is a perfect example of having of traces of a product can still be considered dangerous.

scenario:
police arrested a man at a airport who had traces of rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil in his shoe.

Police arrest the man and say he tried to commit a ********* act, because in enough amounts all those components combined together can produce a highly explosive bomb. In addition, all these ingredients together produce “c-4”



now “traces” of all these compounds does not make c-4 completely. But enough of it can still be highly dangerous and explosive.

logic behind margarito supporters arguments: **** buffman, texstro,el 7 mares v.2 say?
1. well yeah he had traces of rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil but that doesn’t mean he was trying to expload a bomb at a airport or on a airplane.

2. i mean he got caught before anything happen so what is the problem?

question that have to be answered
1.well that still doesn’t answer the question of, why was these ingredients in his shoe if not for a purpose?

2.what was the purpose of having them in your shoe if it was not intend to be used a bomb?

3. What would have happen if the person was allowed to get on a plane with these “rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil shoes”???

conclusion

well in this senerio, the man got life in prison, without parole, and his name is richard colvin reid.

Rdx+ dioctyl sebacate+ polyisobutylene+ motor oil = c4
(no matter if it is "traces")

the prosecution case was easy, and the intent of the man was clear.
And the judgement was delivered.
Life without parole


back to margarito

calcium+sulfur+water+oxygen= plaster of paris

"traces" of sulfur + calcium, moist, hardening, and bloody = margarito wraps.

question that have to be answered

1.why was these ingredients in his wraps if not for a purpose?

2. What was the purpose of having them in his gloves if it was not intend to be used a weapon?

3. What would have happen if the margarito was allowed to get in the ring with those sulfur + calcium, moist, hardening, bloody wraps?

conclusion

the prosecution case was easy, and the intent of the man was clear.
And the judgement was delivered.

However the punishment did not fit the crime in this case. Because margarito should have been jailed or banned for life

[Horus]

Horus

What does Margarito's wraps have to do with Mayweather not fighting him?

Dirk.
The point of all is this that I am confused as to Why would a win over a guy who was suspended, punished, and routinely lemented as cheater be something to be proud of or asked about ?

Margarito is piece of *****. If you are to try discredit Floyd.
Use Pacquiao
Use Vernon Forrest
Use Paul Williams



But too used margarito too me is like using Barry Bonds to discredit the achievements of Ken Griffey Jr. One guy cheated to earned his fame. The other one didn't.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Horus

What does Margarito's wraps have to do with Mayweather not fighting him?

He's using it as an excuse for Floyd ducking Margarito.

His entire resume, especially the key wins, comes under question.

So you're saying Mosley and Toney shouldn't get into the HOF? Cheating makes your fights questionable right?

[radioraheem]

He's using it as an excuse for Floyd ducking Margarito.

So you're saying Mosley and Toney shouldn't get into the HOF? Cheating makes your fights questionable right?

Yup yup. The wins, especially key wins, come under question.

[radioraheem]

Dirk.
The point of all is this that I am confused as to Why would a win over a guy who was suspended, punished, and routinely lemented as cheater be something to be proud of or asked about ?

Margarito is piece of *****. If you are to try discredit Floyd.
Use Pacquiao
Use Vernon Forrest
Use Paul Williams

But too used margarito too me is like using Barry Bonds to discredit the achievements of Ken Griffey Jr. One guy cheated to earned his fame. The other one didn't.

Mind you, they ignore Margarito's response to the whole matter when Cotto confronted him face to face. He totally gave no ****s.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Yup yup. The wins, especially key wins, come under question.

Props to you sir. Same standard.

[Sweet Jones]

Dirk.
The point of all is this that I am confused as to Why would a win over a guy who was suspended, punished, and routinely lemented as cheater be something to be proud of or asked about ?

Margarito is piece of *****. If you are to try discredit Floyd.
Use Pacquiao
Use Vernon Forrest
Use Paul Williams



But too used margarito too me is like using Barry Bonds to discredit the achievements of Ken Griffey Jr. One guy cheated to earned his fame. The other one didn't.

This is on point.

[daggum]

Random idea. Completely off the top of my head here but.....couldn't he have fought them all?

no he had to fight sharmba, judah coming off a loss and then retire. he just didn't have time!