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Cong****! So you pretty much admit that Floyd's win over Mosley would have the same effect if Floyd would of beaten Margarito in his prime. Thanks!You know I gave Shane Mosley the same amount of crticism right..
SHANE IS THE ******EST PERSON ALIVE...AND DONT DESERVE ****!!
IF you could PUNISH MOSLEY "TODAY" for taking STEROIDS in the past WOULD you
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No they wouldn't. Specially if he would of fought them all. Like I said earlier, no one but true haters would discredit his greatness. Majority of Floyd's heat is because he doesn't give us THE FANS the fights that we want to see when we want. That builds hate and that is why he gets rightfully criticized.
Yup! That is what great boxers do. Fight all comers at their best.Comment
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What does Margarito supposedly being a cheater have to do with Mayweather fighting him or not?
Apparently "Maidana be cheating" when it came to his gloves so surely Super Floyd, protector of all boxing, would have caught the evil Margarito trying to load his gloves. Then he would have been the hero and given even more credit for the victory?Comment
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The guys that beat Margo were big fighters. Floyd is naturally smaller than Margo so he would had some trouble with that size of opponent that comes foward so hardComment
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a good amount of posters on this forum have now came up with a theory that margarito hands wrap since they had traces of sulfur + calcium were used for hand lotion instead of a weapon. At first i thought it was a joke, but continuing to read this argument over and over i now feel i must addresss this head on. I will make this point for all of you.Do you really watch & understand boxing??? I doubt it by the above post
1 You said it yourself Margarito was ACCUSED of cheating he was never proven to have cheated. He was banned because of a blatant lie by ****m Richardson who claimed BLOCKS fell out of Margarito's wraps. What happened to those BLOCKS?? All that was really in there was a used gauze pad which was tested in a lab & deemed harmless A technical offense yes but an accidental action by Javier Capetillo
2 If Margarito is a disgrace to the sport while innocent how do you warrant Shane Mosely being allowed to keep fighting & be lauded as a future HOF inductee when he is a PROVEN & eventually SELF CONFESSED EPO steroid abuser. Any other sport & he would be banned for life like the other juicers
If anyone cheated in the Mosely- Margarito fight it was Mosely You only have to look at his none stop energy & punching then & compare it to when he fought Floyd when he had to be clean. He gassed in 3 rounds.
3 When Margarito met Cotto in the rematch he was not 100% because of his severely permanently damaged eye. Cotto knew this that's why he eventually took the fight. He targeted that eye several times he deliberately laced Margarito's damaged eye too. BUT He STILL!! couldn't put a fighter who had valiantly fought him for 8 rounds with one good eye away. Watch the end of the round Margarito is coming on beating his chest Cotto is wilting. Only then does the NY doctor decide to stop the fight. Not to save Margarito but to save Cotto the embarrassment of quitting AGAIN!!!!!!
4 You say all Margarito wins should be discounted huh How about all Moselys wins?? Mosely was a PROVEN cheat how many times did he fight juiced??? Not just the Oscar fight & Margarito I doubt very much
Of the two Margarito & Mosely Mosely is the one that is the CHEAT Shame on anyone campaigning & following a CHEAT!!!!!
**** buffman, texstro,el 7 mares v.2 =
here is a perfect example of having of traces of a product can still be considered dangerous.
scenario:
police arrested a man at a airport who had traces of rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil in his shoe.
Police arrest the man and say he tried to commit a ********* act, because in enough amounts all those components combined together can produce a highly explosive bomb. In addition, all these ingredients together produce “c-4”
now “traces” of all these compounds does not make c-4 completely. But enough of it can still be highly dangerous and explosive.
logic behind margarito supporters arguments: **** buffman, texstro,el 7 mares v.2 say?
1. well yeah he had traces of rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil but that doesn’t mean he was trying to expload a bomb at a airport or on a airplane.
2. i mean he got caught before anything happen so what is the problem?
question that have to be answered
1.well that still doesn’t answer the question of, why was these ingredients in his shoe if not for a purpose?
2.what was the purpose of having them in your shoe if it was not intend to be used a bomb?
3. What would have happen if the person was allowed to get on a plane with these “rdx, dioctyl sebacate, polyisobutylene, and motor oil shoes”???
conclusion
well in this senerio, the man got life in prison, without parole, and his name is richard colvin reid.
Rdx+ dioctyl sebacate+ polyisobutylene+ motor oil = c4
(no matter if it is "traces")
the prosecution case was easy, and the intent of the man was clear.
And the judgement was delivered.
Life without parole
back to margarito
calcium+sulfur+water+oxygen= plaster of paris
"traces" of sulfur + calcium, moist, hardening, and bloody = margarito wraps.
question that have to be answered
1.why was these ingredients in his wraps if not for a purpose?
2. What was the purpose of having them in his gloves if it was not intend to be used a weapon?
3. What would have happen if the margarito was allowed to get in the ring with those sulfur + calcium, moist, hardening, bloody wraps?
conclusion
the prosecution case was easy, and the intent of the man was clear.
And the judgement was delivered.
However the punishment did not fit the crime in this case. Because margarito should have been jailed or banned for lifeComment
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"The only things that are allowed in hand wraps are gauze and tape and those items aren't gauze and tape."
Fresh gauze is supposed to be used for each fight
CSAC Rule 323 limits the amount and type of gauze and tape allowed under a fighter's boxing glove.
Rule 390 allows CSAC to discipline a licensee when his or her actions are a 'discredit to boxing' or violate the rules of CSAC.
Commission Chairman: Tim Noonan said the inquiry stems from a commission rule that limits the amount and type of gauze and tape allowed under a fighter's glove. He said the commission has authority to discipline athletes when their actions are a "discredit to boxing."
Inspector: Mike Bray, said during questioning that he had seen the pads and that they were "moist and dirty looking with a white substance smeared across the pad, like a cast plaster."
A California Department of Justice senior criminalist who inspected the wrappings under a stereomicroscope and with an X-ray fluorescence spectrometer determined the wraps contained sulfur and calcium, according to a document obtained by the Times. Those two elements, with the addition of oxygen, make plaster of Paris.
Sulfur + Calcium + Oxygen = Plaster of Paris.
Plaster of Paris is a type of building material based on calcium sulphate hemihydrate, nominally CaSO4·1/2H2O. It is created by heating gypsum to about 150 °C
Plaster of Paris only requires mixing with water to activate
Margarito's Wraps FACTS
1. Moist (water to activate)
2. White substance smeared across the pad, like a cast plaster.
3. The wraps when tested had the ingrediance of sulfur + Caluim(Sulfur + Calcium + Oxygen = Plaster of Paris.)
4. They were hardening
5. Capetillo used old gauze. NOT NEW ones
BASED ON THE FACTS:
Margarito Wraps were a discredit to boxing, evidence has proven that his wraps contained the elements of Plaster of Paris.
Margarito to this day, has yet to sue or publicly denouned Capetillo. Which should be viewed at the very least su****ious since he claims this man has single handly detroyed his career.
Margarito has yet to take a lie detector test which is also shocking since you would think he would do everything possible to prove his innocence.
RULE:Fresh gauze is supposed to be used for each MAIN EVENT fight
Margarito: Capetillo used old gauze.
STRIKE 1
RULE:The only things that are allowed in hand wraps are gauze and tape
Margarito:The wraps were moist, bloodly, hardening, and when tested had the ingrediance of sulfur + Caluim.
STRIKE 2
RULE:Bandages shall be adjusted in the dressing room in the presence of a commission representative and both contestants.
Margarito:Cepetillo had already wrap Margarito right hand before ****m even entered the room.
STIKE 3
Margarito was ruled Out.Comment
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What does Margarito's wraps have to do with Mayweather not fighting him?Comment
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