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Originally posted by ostinato View PostIt seems pretty simple: If Arum is really lying about the negotiations, what specifically is he lying about? Just tell the public. If Arum has already set the precedent to talk outside of the negotiations, why not fire back with what specifically he's not being truthful on?
You have Pacquiao and Arum both saying to the public they're willing to take the 60-40 split, accepted the venue and also the OSDT. So what exactly is the holdup in negotiations as relates to Manny and Floyd? I understand that the networks still need to flesh out their part of the process, but what is it that's missing that is preventing the two boxers from coming to an agreement?
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Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View PostYea because HBO is making big bucks by airing Lemiux-Rosado RiosAlvarado15 Kirkland-Canelo smh. Maybe solid fights but nothing outstanding
HONESTLY So far Canelo best fights and tougher competiton all came from Showtime. He fighting a guy who aint been in the ring in a year at catchweight. HBO gone lose more money on Canelo.
Showtime is backed in a corner, but I doubt that Haymon or Floyd give a crap.
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Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View PostLol whats your point? Of course the guy owns Pacquio so of course Moonves HAS to meet with him. Still dont take the fact that he called him a devil. Interesting trend in reference to old bob.
It's borderline insanity that you are ignoring this fact.
So are you claiming Pacquiao is lying? That he is making it all up out of thin air??? Stop obsessing with what Arum said, Pac also said it. Moonves would not work with Arum if he was lying about everything. No one would. It's insane that this needs to be explained.
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There is it as I predicted. SHO protecting Floyd's image. Now SHO is threatening Arum that he's killing the deal. How do you kill a deal, if you agreed to everything and went on record?? They're gonna kill the biggest PPV deal in history coz Arum is being an ******?? Of course not. CBS & Time Warner are gonna say, "no Mayeather-Pacquiao because Arum is needling and blaming Floyd". Please.
Arum is a total douche, but notice that Espinoza isn't dis*****g that Pacquiao & Arum agreed to terms. But he is accurate in saying that Arum is "misrepresenting" Floyd, even though Floyd himself is keeping quiet. Only TMT and SHO are allowed to represent Floyd, NOT Arum. But it doesn't mean that Arum is wrong. Only SHO, TMT & of course, Floyd himself know whether he wants this fight.
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Ouch. I really don't like what is being said here. Aside from the back and forth between Arum and Espinoza, Espinoza is basically saying no one from HBO, Showtime, Moonves, etc have signed off on anything. Pretty bold statement to make if he's lying.
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the funny thing is espinoza says floyd wants the fight but then ariza is on video saying the fight isnt gonna happen while ripping bob arum, then floyd on twitter cosigning everything that ariza said! to me it just seems like floyd does't want the fight and espinoza is trying to protect floyd!
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Originally posted by KillerJones View PostWho care's what Arum said?, when Pacquiao already confirmed it, before Arum.
It's borderline insanity that you are ignoring this fact.
So are you claiming Pacquiao is lying? That he is making it all up out of thin air??? Stop obsessing with what Arum said, Pac also said it. Moonves would not work with Arum if he was lying about everything. No one would. It's insane that this needs to be explained.
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Originally posted by KillerJones View PostIt's funny how Floyd fans are obssessed with attacking the crediblity of Arum, and even use a Moonves quotes, which makes no sense considering they are working side by side, so how would that even BE possible? Use your brain for one second.
And it's also funny that they conveniently ignore that everything Arum is saying, Pacquiao said first. Pac said he signed the contract.
So why aren't you blind Floyd fans attacking Pac's credibility? Because you cannot. He is an honest man.
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The negotiations have to be done in public at this point... we need to know who is holding up this fight... there is no reason to have a gag order when we have conflicting information coming from all sides...
Haymon loves to negotiate in the dark like this because then he can spin things the way he wants like he and Floyd were able to spin that BS $40 mil offer publicity stunt... The fact that Arum is even negotiating with Floyd after that is credit to Arum for being the bigger man...
That $40 mil call told me all I need to know about whether Floyd wants the fight..he obviously doesn't... gag orders are only here to waste time... I've already stated I'm not ordering any more boxing PPVs unless it's Mayweather-Pacquiao... or Mayweather-Triple G... if it ain't one of those two fights... I'm happy streaming my fights..my connection has been amazing lately...
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