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  • #21
    I read that the negotations were levels above Espinoza. He doesn't know what has been agreed to or not

    Moonvese is the one with credibility here, not Espinoza who still won't release the Maidana PPV #'s

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    • #22
      I thought Espinoza was going to say Arums right. Are guys scared, so we'll just sell you a Cotto rematch instead.

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      • #23
        arum has been very clear about what stipulations they have agreed to, if he was lying, espinoza could very easily say what he is lying about. is it the purse %, is it the date, is it the venue, is it the gloves, etc... instead, he just comes out and says "hes not truthful", that dont mean squat without specifics.
        i bet if he was pushed for specifics about what arum is lying about, he would claim some dumb crap like "he is lying about floyd wanting the fight, floyd very much wants the fight"... and the spin goes on and on.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
          I read that the negotations were levels above Espinoza. He doesn't know what has been agreed to or not

          Moonvese is the one with credibility here, not Espinoza who still won't release the Maidana PPV #'s
          He's just trying to save his job, he won't put all the blame on Floyd because Floyd still has 2 fights left with Showtime and Floyd already has cost them money if he talks sh.it about Floyd Showtime will lose even more money

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          • #25
            Originally posted by man-of-war View Post
            arum has been very clear about what stipulations they have agreed to, if he was lying, espinoza could very easily say what he is lying about. is it the purse %, is it the date, is it the venue, is it the gloves, etc... instead, he just comes out and says "hes not truthful", that dont mean squat without specifics.
            i bet if he was pushed for specifics about what arum is lying about, he would claim some dumb crap like "he is lying about floyd wanting the fight, floyd very much wants the fight"... and the spin goes on and on.
            No one from Top Rank's camp has spoken out openly about the terms. Even when pressed in an interview Pacquioa's manager Koncz wouldn't confirm the date, site, etc.

            The info about the terms came from anonymous sources.

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            • #26
              Negotiations Should Have Been Televised So We See Who Is Full Of ****

              Espinoza is s clown. He's standing up for his client, Floyd Mayweather. I'm sure they all want to go to the bank on this fight happening. But do open up what the hold up is. Let's hear from Moonves, HBO & SHO Presidents. I don't need to hear from Floyd; he's illiterate and can't read Harry Potter. I don't need to hear from Espinoza who brought us phenomenal fight card headlined by Garcia-SALKA, and cried why Oscar wouldn't help promote that card. Arum & Pacquiao have both said publically, "all that has been proposed to them in demands, they've agreed to all". "Sign the deal Floyd", is a figure of speech meaning, "hey we agreed to all your demands Floyd, now be in agreement with us". So is Arum & Pac have done their part... What else is left? What does the public not know about? What else is being considered? If there's more to negotiate, then they need to let Arum & Pacquiao know... Floyd & SHO say they are far from a deal, but don't disclose what else is still holding up a deal!!!! Phukk, communicate publically then the public doesn't have to guess who is full of BS, or speculate a sorts of scenarios that the public has no idea about. ESPINOZA, don't just come publically and massage Floyd's ego and throw down Arum... Tell the public what's the hold up in negotiations!!!!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by latinbrawler316 View Post
                He's just trying to save his job, he won't put all the blame on Floyd because Floyd still has 2 fights left with Showtime and Floyd already has cost them money if he talks sh.it about Floyd Showtime will lose even more money
                He's trying to save his job by lying about negotiations when his boss Les Moonves is directly involved. People just dont think logically.

                Are people now going to accuse Moonves of trying to protect Mayweather?

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                • #28
                  I think its time to move on, gentleman.

                  We have Rios/Alvarado tonight plus Provodnikov/Matthysse, Canelo/Kirkland to look forward to.

                  Even If Floyd doesnt want to bring fun into the sport, theres still some great fights ahead.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ostinato View Post
                    It seems pretty simple: If Arum is really lying about the negotiations, what specifically is he lying about? Just tell the public. If Arum has already set the precedent to talk outside of the negotiations, why not fire back with what specifically he's not being truthful on?

                    You have Pacquiao and Arum both saying to the public they're willing to take the 60-40 split, accepted the venue and also the OSDT. So what exactly is the holdup in negotiations as relates to Manny and Floyd? I understand that the networks still need to flesh out their part of the process, but what is it that's missing that is preventing the two boxers from coming to an agreement?
                    He answered that.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
                      He's trying to save his job by lying about negotiations when his boss Les Moonves is directly involved. People just dont think logically.

                      Are people now going to accuse Moonves of trying to protect Mayweather?
                      Do you know who got Moonves involved?? the man flo.mo's say is blocking the fight Arum lol

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