I slightly favor Matthysse but if they both land some bombs early in the fight and it turns into a slow bloody war of attrition Provo could stop him.
Matthysse-Provodnikov being finalized for March 28th
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Yeah, I see it as a 60-40 fight. If Matthysse doesn't box smart he could get hurt and go down.
Not sure it gets made though tbh.Comment
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Yes, people are allowed to be ******, and they sure are.
There is an issue with Matthysse being able to KO (not just beat, KO) Mayweather and Pacquiao after his Peterson fight, then get KO'ed by Provodnikov after his Garcia fight (and no longer stand a chance against Mayweather and Pacquiao), because Provodnikov almost beat Bradley. Now Matthysse can beat Provodnikov again.
Styles make fights. How can one performance change a fighters style? If you think Provodnikov KO's Matthysse and vice versa, then stick to your guns. You thought he KO's him because of styles or one performance? I think Paul Williams would've defeated someone like Miguel Cotto, before and after his KO loss to Martinez and his win(robbery) vs Lara. No fighter beating Williams is going to change my opinion that his style/reach/height would've lead him to defeat Cotto. Just an example.
But here, a performance seems to change a fighters attributes/advantages/style altogether and his chances vs a guy who he was touted as being able to demolish dramatically changes. I thought Matthysse beat Provodnikov before and after their win/loss to Garcia/Bradley. Molina KD'ing Matthysse still doesn't change that either, because, Provonikov is not tall ass, long reach Molina. Prov is better than Molina, but he doesn't have his physical advantages/attributes as a fighter to put down Matthysse like that with his ling reach too. Provodnikov destroying Castillo in 1 round or 6 or UD'ing him, or barely beating him in an SD doesn't change a thing either.Comment
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Matthysse gets smashed with an overhand right and it's goodnight. People saying Matthysse easily outboxes Provo are forgetting one thing... nobody easily outboxes Ruslan, they take serious damage doing so. Matthysse, while the better boxer, isn't so good that he can get through this fight without suffering damage of his own. He'll have his moments for sure, but ultimately he's getting bombed out. Nothing but credit to both for taking this fight if it is indeed being made so quickly. At least there's still a few men left in this sport.Comment
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Boxing is not a week-to-week sport, a lot of time passes and we only get to see these guys twice a year. In that time fighters get older, they sustain injuries so it matters how they look in recent fights. A loss can change a fighter.Yes, people are allowed to be ******, and they sure are.
There is an issue with Matthysse being able to KO (not just beat, KO) Mayweather and Pacquiao after his Peterson fight, then get KO'ed by Provodnikov after his Garcia fight (and no longer stand a chance against Mayweather and Pacquiao), because Provodnikov almost beat Bradley. Now Matthysse can beat Provodnikov again.
Styles make fights. How can one performance change a fighters style? If you think Provodnikov KO's Matthysse and vice versa, then stick to your guns. You thought he KO's him because of styles or one performance? I think Paul Williams would've defeated someone like Miguel Cotto, before and after his KO loss to Martinez and his win(robbery) vs Lara. No fighter beating Williams is going to change my opinion that his style/reach/height would've lead him to defeat Cotto. Just an example.
But here, a performance seems to change a fighters attributes/advantages/style altogether and his chances vs a guy who he was touted as being able to demolish dramatically changes. I thought Matthysse beat Provodnikov before and after their win/loss to Garcia/Bradley. Molina KD'ing Matthysse still doesn't change that either, because, Provonikov is not tall ass, long reach Molina. Prov is better than Molina, but he doesn't have his physical advantages/attributes as a fighter to put down Matthysse like that with his ling reach too. Provodnikov destroying Castillo in 1 round or 6 or UD'ing him, or barely beating him in an SD doesn't change a thing either.
There's nothing wrong with basing opinions on recent performance. If a fighter takes a loss fans can lose faith, if they string a couple of good wins that faith can be restored. C'est la vie.
It might be considered reactionary but bottom line is nobody has the answers in this sport, not the so called experts and not the bandwagoners for if they did they'd be very wealthy putting money on it.Last edited by Weebler I; 01-24-2015, 10:19 AM.Comment
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Well I disagree with you.Yes, people are allowed to be ******, and they sure are.
There is an issue with Matthysse being able to KO (not just beat, KO) Mayweather and Pacquiao after his Peterson fight, then get KO'ed by Provodnikov after his Garcia fight (and no longer stand a chance against Mayweather and Pacquiao), because Provodnikov almost beat Bradley. Now Matthysse can beat Provodnikov again.
Styles make fights. How can one performance change a fighters style? If you think Provodnikov KO's Matthysse and vice versa, then stick to your guns. You thought he KO's him because of styles or one performance? I think Paul Williams would've defeated someone like Miguel Cotto, before and after his KO loss to Martinez and his win(robbery) vs Lara. No fighter beating Williams is going to change my opinion that his style/reach/height would've lead him to defeat Cotto. Just an example.
But here, a performance seems to change a fighters attributes/advantages/style altogether and his chances vs a guy who he was touted as being able to demolish dramatically changes. I thought Matthysse beat Provodnikov before and after their win/loss to Garcia/Bradley. Molina KD'ing Matthysse still doesn't change that either, because, Provonikov is not tall ass, long reach Molina. Prov is better than Molina, but he doesn't have his physical advantages/attributes as a fighter to put down Matthysse like that with his ling reach too. Provodnikov destroying Castillo in 1 round or 6 or UD'ing him, or barely beating him in an SD doesn't change a thing either.Comment
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good relevant points.Yes, people are allowed to be ******, and they sure are.
There is an issue with Matthysse being able to KO (not just beat, KO) Mayweather and Pacquiao after his Peterson fight, then get KO'ed by Provodnikov after his Garcia fight (and no longer stand a chance against Mayweather and Pacquiao), because Provodnikov almost beat Bradley. Now Matthysse can beat Provodnikov again.
Styles make fights. How can one performance change a fighters style? If you think Provodnikov KO's Matthysse and vice versa, then stick to your guns. You thought he KO's him because of styles or one performance? I think Paul Williams would've defeated someone like Miguel Cotto, before and after his KO loss to Martinez and his win(robbery) vs Lara. No fighter beating Williams is going to change my opinion that his style/reach/height would've lead him to defeat Cotto. Just an example.
But here, a performance seems to change a fighters attributes/advantages/style altogether and his chances vs a guy who he was touted as being able to demolish dramatically changes. I thought Matthysse beat Provodnikov before and after their win/loss to Garcia/Bradley. Molina KD'ing Matthysse still doesn't change that either, because, Provonikov is not tall ass, long reach Molina. Prov is better than Molina, but he doesn't have his physical advantages/attributes as a fighter to put down Matthysse like that with his ling reach too. Provodnikov destroying Castillo in 1 round or 6 or UD'ing him, or barely beating him in an SD doesn't change a thing either.
however, one performance CAN change perspectives if it has been that one fight that "ruins" the guy. his "style" might not change but he might just not be as effective, or to apply it, as previously.Comment
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