Lets talk about James Toney.

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  • Elroy1
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    #41
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    He fought in one of the deepest era's in middleweight history and won titles at 160, 168, and 190.



    If you look at it there are very few people to start at middleweight or lower and have success at heavyweight and that means a lot.


    Only Roy Jones who fought one time @ heavy, Bob Fitzsimmons, Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Archie Moore, Sam Lanforde, Georges Carpentier started so low and could compete and beat the big boys.


    IMO that's a more significant feat than collecting trinkets in shallow weight classes also his skills are on par with the greatest who ever lived.



    IMO id put toney top 30 all time based off skills, ability to compete at an advanced age, falling off and winning his last title a decade after his first.



    James Toney was a true all time great, its crazy if he had the work ethic of an evander holyfield or Floyd Mayweather he had the talent to be top 10 all time
    Despite everything about you exuding Old Time Nut Baggery which I despise..

    I find myself having to 100% agree with this post of yours!!

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    • Beercules
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      #42
      Can someone embed this video of Toney? I literally laugh every time.



      http://********/mhHhn-bu8i0 "fought taxi drivers, just like Chavez, fought nurses, just like Chavez"


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      • joseph5620
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        #43
        Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
        You missed. Bradley likes to balloon up greatly during his time off, but busts his ass during camp. Somebody mentioned earlier that Toney was the same way.
        Toney fought from 160 to heavyweight. Bradley has moved from 140 to 147.


        No similarities whatsoever.

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        • KillaMane26
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          #44
          ATG....who should have been ranked higher If he wasnt so into Mcdonalds

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          • therealpugilist
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dabuu
            ATG....who should have been ranked higher If he wasnt so into Mcdonalds
            more like burger king lol.....can somebody pull up that interview?

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            • therealpugilist
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              #46
              Originally posted by Elroy1
              Despite everything about you exuding Old Time Nut Baggery which I despise..

              I find myself having to 100% agree with this post of yours!!

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              • KillerJones
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                #47
                Originally posted by Beercules
                Can someone embed this video of Toney? I literally laugh every time.



                http://********/mhHhn-bu8i0 "fought taxi drivers, just like Chavez, fought nurses, just like Chavez"


                Hahaha, amazing! I like him even more now.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
                  You missed. Bradley likes to balloon up greatly during his time off, but busts his ass during camp. Somebody mentioned earlier that Toney was the same way.
                  As are thousands of other fighters.

                  What's the connection with Bradley?

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                  • Eastcoast
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                    #49



                    Ultimate compliment to James was the respect his peers gave him. Even Roy Jones going off about how he beat him, just after saying Toney was his toughest fight. And Collins talking about how Toney would be drinking soda while training sums up Toney's issues.

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                    • Tony Trick-Pony
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      Supposedly there's sparring footage Manny had of those two back in the Kronk days. A few reporters on hand said they had some wars. Still in an actual fight I'd have to favor Toney by stoppage.

                      Gerald for all his explosive talent, had a really untested career. He had three big wins against Mugabi, and Jackson (2x), but nothing else. Granted he was stepping up in weight against Benn, but once Benn survived the initial onslaught, Gerald was getting outboxed and getting hit with clean shots regularly. I think Toney would've took Gerald's best and been landing hard shots on Gerald all night.
                      I would favor Toney as well, but McClellan stopped Benn in the first round. The incompetent referee gave a long count. Otherwise McClellan would have won. He probably would have been exposed later on, but that fight was a tragedy.

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