This is exactly why I gave Wilder little to no credit for that win. When the guy can barely move and you still can't knock him out even with accumulation?
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Originally posted by denium View PostStiverne didn't look like the same fighter who knocked out Arreola.
Stiverne has been full of excuses but claims " no excuses."
If you're feeling good enough to talk big before the fight and step in the ring then you should accept your loss and move on.Last edited by joseph5620; 01-20-2015, 02:46 PM.
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Originally posted by bmud reggin View PostThis is exactly why I gave Wilder little to no credit for that win. When the guy can barely move and you still can't knock him out even with accumulation?
Because he failed to KO Stiverne over 12 via accumulation, yeah Stiverne might have an iron chin but it can also be partly attributed to Wilder's punch NOT being as hard as claimed.
WK would have sparked him guaranteed.
His chin and stamina were also not quite tested as expected either.
Of course, ^^^ This is the worst case scenario. He displayed more than he ever has before. It's unclear his limits on chin and stamina yet because he's never been really pushed or crunched yet.
But I think we can assume he isn't a KO artist at top level. His power was dangerous against bummy boxers mainly.
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seen it a thousand times, the loser had this weird medical condition, no wonder he lost, he overtrained, he was dehydrated, blah, blah, blah.
what happened was simple, he ate a thousand jabs, couldnt get inside where he needed to and got his ass whipped. End of story.
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Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostProblem for Wilder with all this now is that there is still a little doubt.
Because he failed to KO Stiverne over 12 via accumulation, yeah Stiverne might have an iron chin but it can also be partly attributed to Wilder's punch NOT being as hard as claimed.
WK would have sparked him guaranteed.
His chin and stamina were also not quite tested as expected either.
Of course, ^^^ This is the worst case scenario. He displayed more than he ever has before. It's unclear his limits on chin and stamina yet because he's never been really pushed or crunched yet.
But I think we can assume he isn't a KO artist at top level. His power was dangerous against bummy boxers mainly.
This was the best opponent he had faced by a mile. He showed a lot of improvement and promise. Give him a year or two and will be ready for a showdown with the Klit. Will he win, my guess would be no but he will make it real exciting.
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You get rhab from your body overworking.
Stiverne is one of the least active fighters in the sport, and even turned down a tuneup, the guy is simply lazy, and his body broke down on him when asked to perform.
With Wilders reach, he couldn't simply sit against the ropes the way he did vs Arreola, he couldn't get away with being lazy.
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Originally posted by jup11223 View Posthttp://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...5UuFMA9FubmolQ
This is a condition where your muscle fibres die and are being released into your blood.read the link,it will explain more.
Is this proven or just some BS from the Stiverne camp. Whatever though, Wilder would've won either way.
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Originally posted by freedom213 View Postseen it a thousand times, the loser had this weird medical condition, no wonder he lost, he overtrained, he was dehydrated, blah, blah, blah.
what happened was simple, he ate a thousand jabs, couldnt get inside where he needed to and got his ass whipped. End of story.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostMan, I studied this last year. That shows that he over did it in training at some point and often linked to dehydration.
Is this proven or just some BS from the Stiverne camp. Whatever though, Wilder would've won either way.
If he actually had rhab he Would not of been able to walk in the ring, You can die from it.
It is possible it could of occured during the fight though, which suggest he didn't Train hard enough.
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