SMH P. MALIGNAGGI going at it with me on twitter

[Evol]

He said it was their fault, the first time round.

That's what's being referred to,

yeah and i was saying if u're gonna quote him, make sure u quote the whole statement.

“I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

[davidandrei]

manny declined the first drug test and said ok to the ones after that.
All that means is he COULD have been doping back then then stopped. Once again, theres no proof, only possibilities.

I like the poster above knows that and doesn't blindly just say well he said no to drug test. According to Vada, manny is clean right now. Back then, manny was clean according to nobody except nsac and we know they were not enough.

[daggum]

Your thread proves nothing but your lack of knowledge. The facts are Manny ran from FMJ and was possibly on PEDS while running. Deal with it. What Manny states he will agree to after the fact is irrelevant. And I am glad Manny is not scared of tests now, because the rumored fight w/FMJ might finally get made. Also, from many of your statements in this thread, you are not aware of the history in this saga. Put the youtube away and read articles. Pay attention to quotes, not the opinion.

yes why collect all the information when you can just focus on one event. that should tell you the whole story. any good scientist would think this way. sh-it it snowed one day i guess global warming is fake! manny's been willing to take all the tests for 5 years now lol and you are still blaming him for not completely accepting 1 time. what about all the other times that made floyd look bad? i guess they didn't happen because of that one time...

[IronDanHamza]

actually "kinda" means 50/50 and my point was if he's gonna quote freddie roach, then make sure he quote the whole statement and not just what he wants to put.

The question being asked was regarding the first negotiation. So why would I talk about any of the others?

[IronDanHamza]

yeah and i was saying if u're gonna quote him, make sure u quote the whole statement.

“I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

Ok....

So, the first time was their fault.

Which is exactly what I said.

Again, the statment was regarding the first negotiation. So why would I talk about the others?

[Pocket Dogs!]

Why are you guys still talking about the first set of negotiations back in 2009?!?!?! They're already negotiating now and according to Lance Pugmire of the LA Times, all negotiations on drug testing have already been settled. All they're negotiating now is money split and then HBO and Showtime will have to negotiate.

Stop talking about the first set of negotiations. Roach already put a period on that first set when he said himself that it was Team Pacquiao's fault.

[radioraheem]

pacquiao's side also offered asking the NSAC to implement extra testing, exactly the thing that was done in bradley vs marquez and pacquiao vs bradley

floyd needed to have it his way tho and pacquiao wasn't too high on letting a ****** peasant dictate to him, now the roles are reversed and pacquiao's the peasant

NSAC said they could not do that type of testing at the time. No one other than USADA could do it at that time. NSAC brought along their own advanced random drug testing years later after the fact.

[daggum]

Ok....

So, the first time was their fault.

Which is exactly what I said.

Again, the statment was regarding the first negotiation. So why would I talk about the others?

he said it was kinda their fault.

definition of kinda=to some extent.

[radioraheem]

cool. So why did it matter to floyd is pac used vada instead of usada? Mind you, that ever since tmt fighters got busted by vada, they have been using usada.

VADA did not exist when the original/first negotiations for Floyd vs. Pacquaio. The only anti-doping organisation that existed to do it was USADA. So likewise, USADA was the choice by default.

VADA came around years later after the fact. Like a year or 2 years later. Also, no TMT fighter has ever been busted by VADA. The two TMT fighters that got caught with positives, they were caught through NSAC's drug test, which wasn't even advanced and wasn't even random.

[puro dinamita]

alright...man up...which one of you f@gs is this

lmfao ^^^