Comments Thread For: Froch: Golovkin is Not PPV, I'd Need a KO To Beat Ward

[Public_Enemy]

Froch has worked his way back to the top after losing to Ward. I think a rematch could do very well if done correctly. It's the only meaningful fight left for Froch and he wanted vengeance a few months back. I can't blame anyone for going after the money but the Ward fight could become his defining moment.

[Bardock]

Froch has worked his way back to the top after losing to Ward. I think a rematch could do very well if done correctly. It's the only meaningful fight left for Froch and he wanted vengeance a few months back. I can't blame anyone for going after the money but the Ward fight could become his defining moment.

^^^THISSS. Froch fanboys dont want it, neither does Froch.

[VAGAB0ND]

He is arguably #1 due to Wards inactivity and him beating multiple top fighters whilst he was.
''they fought when it was irrelevant, nobody even knew who the fck they were'' come on you're making stuff up now in an attempt to justify LSC's ducking of Rigo which has nothing in common with Froch vs Ward.
Nobody is saying anything about running if they watched the first fight they would know Ward didn't run and fought most of the fight in the pocket.

They've already fought, nobody is calling for a rematch. We all know, Froch knows who the better man is. It doesn't need a rematch.
Leo Santa Cruz on the other hand is flat out ducking Rigondeaux and not just that hes ducking Frampton #2, Quigg #3 AND fighting total bums.
Just like nobody is crying for Donaire vs Rigo 2, we know who the superior fighter is.

at the bold. Scott Quigg knocked out Stephane Jamoye last year. Leo Santa Cruz knocked the same guy out 4 years ago, . Leo Santa Cruz's next opponent Jesus Ruiz, who is a featherweight "bum" by the way, beat the "bum" who knocked out Yoandris Salinas, who fought to a draw with Scott Quigg. Yoandris Salinas is the best fighter on Quigg's resume, , and that's only because he was an undefeated prospect when they fought. Salinas turned out to be a wanted suspect, so Quigg has nothing on his resume. And that's in 30 fights. More fights than Leo Santa Cruz.

And you U.K. "lads" love to pretend that Leo Santa Cruz is ducking Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg. Yeah the teams of Frampton and Quigg may have sent offers to the team of Santa Cruz. Does that mean anytime fighter's team sends an offer to another and they don't accept it they're ducking? No. A lot of times fighters are just on different schedules and sticking to their script. And a lot of it is just a show for the media. I mean why would Santa Cruz jump at the chance to fight the great Carl Frampton or the great Scott Quigg when it's perfectly convenient for them. If I remember correct Quigg's team offered to fight Santa Cruz on the Mayweather undercard, as if the team of Santa Cruz makes that decision. And I doubt Quigg was willing to take the chump change that Santa Cruz's opponent did get. I mean all fighters dream about one day going to fight in Europe, huh? Sure Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg may be big draws in Europe, but Leo Santa Cruz is the A-side in the U.S., where it matters, . Well you probably think Floyd Mayweather Jr. not accepting Amir Khan's "offers" means he is ducking too, huh?

Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton, and Scott Quigg are all ducking Guillermo Rigondeaux. DEAL WITH IT.

The fact is Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg act like Guillermo Rigondeaux doesn't exist, but it doesn't matter because they don't exist to the fans. Leo Santa Cruz does, that's why he gets all the heat.

[IronDanHamza]

Neither is chavez yet you're desperate to fight him.

Erm, yes he is.

[Bardock]

at the bold. Scott Quigg knocked out Stephane Jamoye last year. Leo Santa Cruz knocked the same guy out 4 years ago, . Leo Santa Cruz's next opponent Jesus Ruiz, who is a featherweight "bum" by the way, beat the "bum" who knocked out Yoandris Salinas, who fought to a draw with Scott Quigg. Yoandris Salinas is the best fighter on Quigg's resume, , and that's only because he was an undefeated prospect when they fought. Salinas turned out to be a wanted suspect, so Quigg has nothing on his resume. And that's in 30 fights. More fights than Leo Santa Cruz.

And you U.K. "lads" love to pretend that Leo Santa Cruz is ducking Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg. Yeah the teams of Frampton and Quigg may have sent offers to the team of Santa Cruz. Does that mean anytime fighter's team sends an offer to another and they don't accept it they're ducking? No. A lot of times fighters are just on different schedules and sticking to their script. And a lot of it is just a show for the media. I mean why would Santa Cruz jump at the chance to fight the great Carl Frampton or the great Scott Quigg when it's perfectly convenient for them. If I remember correct Quigg's team offered to fight Santa Cruz on the Mayweather undercard, as if the team of Santa Cruz makes that decision. And I doubt Quigg was willing to take the chump change that Santa Cruz's opponent did get. I mean all fighters dream about one day going to fight in Europe, huh? Sure Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg may be big draws in Europe, but Leo Santa Cruz is the A-side in the U.S., where it matters,. Well you probably think Floyd Mayweather Jr. not accepting Amir Khan's "offers" means he is ducking too, huh?

Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton, and Scott Quigg are all ducking Guillermo Rigondeaux. DEAL WITH IT.

The fact is Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg act like Guillermo Rigondeaux doesn't exist, but it doesn't matter because they don't exist to the fans. Leo Santa Cruz does, that's why he gets all the heat.

Exactly lol They are all ducking rigo, but these UK fanboys dont think so because "frampton and quigg" WANT to fight each other and leo LMAO They talk about it as if quigg and frampton have already fought each other while fighting top contenders and santa cruz is ducking all 3. Double fckng standards bro lol

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't believe that for one moment.if Froch and GGG fought I believe it would do ppv both sides of the Atlantic,maybe even the likes of Poland and Russian Federation too.

Froch appeared on HBO in a hugely entertaining fight against Kessler,GGG everyone knows his story,fighting in Cali last out filling the place and having the Mexican fight fans appealing to his style also.

This fight is a ppv,lets hear your take ?

It's not for you to "believe". It's fact. Golovkin is not big enough yet in America to put him on PPV. And Froch has only been on HBO himself a couple of times - neither were live primtime. It's not about believing, HBO have told them it's not PPV. A Brit vs a Kazakh on HBO PPV? When has something like that ever happened?

[HanzGruber]

at the bold. Scott Quigg knocked out Stephane Jamoye last year. Leo Santa Cruz knocked the same guy out 4 years ago, . Leo Santa Cruz's next opponent Jesus Ruiz, who is a featherweight "bum" by the way, beat the "bum" who knocked out Yoandris Salinas, who fought to a draw with Scott Quigg. Yoandris Salinas is the best fighter on Quigg's resume, , and that's only because he was an undefeated prospect when they fought. Salinas turned out to be a wanted suspect, so Quigg has nothing on his resume. And that's in 30 fights. More fights than Leo Santa Cruz.

And you U.K. "lads" love to pretend that Leo Santa Cruz is ducking Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg. Yeah the teams of Frampton and Quigg may have sent offers to the team of Santa Cruz. Does that mean anytime fighter's team sends an offer to another and they don't accept it they're ducking? No. A lot of times fighters are just on different schedules and sticking to their script. And a lot of it is just a show for the media. I mean why would Santa Cruz jump at the chance to fight the great Carl Frampton or the great Scott Quigg when it's perfectly convenient for them. If I remember correct Quigg's team offered to fight Santa Cruz on the Mayweather undercard, as if the team of Santa Cruz makes that decision. And I doubt Quigg was willing to take the chump change that Santa Cruz's opponent did get. I mean all fighters dream about one day going to fight in Europe, huh? Sure Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg may be big draws in Europe, but Leo Santa Cruz is the A-side in the U.S., where it matters, . Well you probably think Floyd Mayweather Jr. not accepting Amir Khan's "offers" means he is ducking too, huh?

Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton, and Scott Quigg are all ducking Guillermo Rigondeaux. DEAL WITH IT.

The fact is Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg act like Guillermo Rigondeaux doesn't exist, but it doesn't matter because they don't exist to the fans. Leo Santa Cruz does, that's why he gets all the heat.

Wow I don't even know what to call that. You just went way beyond a triangle theory

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Niether is Froch at being a PPV star, neither is Chavez. If anything GGG looks to be the one with the most potential to be a PPV star. I've been a fan of Froch but his recent comments are not ridiculous and he isn't making himself look good.

Potential yes....is he now though? No. Chavez and Froch have both headlined PPVs.

I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I can't see a Froch-Chavez ppv selling all that well. Even at his peak, Chavez vs Martinez didn't do that great (~450k). Now Chavez is far less popular and somewhat exposed as a subpar fighter. Meanwhile how popular is Froch in the US? His fight with Ward had way under a million views and he hasn't been featured in US primetime since. I think that proposed ppv bombs.


He's right though, Golovkin can't sell a US ppv yet, he needs a major name to bring him up to that level. Maybe Hopkins in May, but even then I don't think he's going to be popular enough to do a ppv.

Chavez-Martinez did half a million PPV buys which was actually a great number. People have become very warped about whether a PPV is a success or not based on Mayweather's numbers.

Chavez fought once last year....against bloody Bryan Vera....and it was the highest rated fight on US TV in 2014

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I've just watched the BT Sports Special where these snippets are taken from. For anyone who hasn't seen it it's well worth a viewing.

http://http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=3979832546001