Comments Thread For: Froch: Golovkin is Not PPV, I'd Need a KO To Beat Ward

[Tobi.G]

Froch has earned the right to cherrypick his last Opponent. He fought the best and everybody knows what he can and what he cant do so there is no Point for a rematch against Ward or a fight against GGG. Chavez Jr. would be the best paid fight he would win and thats exactly what he wants. He wants to leave with a win and with a nice paycheck but i dont blame him because he fought the best already. He has nothing to proof.

[Jewish-Reptile]

GGG and his people are becoming really irritating.

You can't beat c level fighter after c level fighter then just start calling out stars.

Fight contenders and work your way up like you're supposed to.

Froch had to go through the super six to earn his stripes. He fought the best in his division to become a draw and GGG thinks he is on that level because he beat Macklin? Curtis Stevens? GTFO!

And if you are what you/they say you are stop running after everyone that has no interest in you and fight Ward, he wants it.

I think you're being really unfair to Daniel Geale with that statement,GGG has called everyone at the weight out too,ok he hasn't beaten any A level guys,but Geale is most certainly B+ at worse,he recognised the threat in GGG vacated and fought numerous money fights before coming back full circle to face GGG having milked his career before its worth before putting himself back in the title hunt with a win over Fletcher.

Geale may have a few losses on his record but the Barker fight where he was relieved of his belt really was a questionable result,as was the Mundine loss,another split decision.a fight in which Barker had to summon the strength of the gods just to get off of the floor and limp abjectly over the line.a testament in itself to the legitimate power Geale carries at the weight,and further testament to the mettle of his opponent that night.because he chooses to box as opposed to loading up on his opponents should not detract from his standing amonsgt the hugher echelons of the divison.

GGG dealt with him expertly,never had Geale been dealt with in this manner previously and I don't expect to see him stopped in that manner again,unless of course for some unbeknown reason he moved up to 168 !

[bronx7]

Daddy t

Yes Froch vs GGG in England would sell out a soccer stadium and it would be a much better fight then Chavez skill wise. Froch would give it his all and so would G I wonder what weight they would do it at as g has spent whole career at middle would he move up with guys these size 8lbs means a lot and fight night froch would have 15 plus pound edge. Some action fight

[Jewish-Reptile]

Except that it's not. At least not right now.

I don't believe that for one moment.if Froch and GGG fought I believe it would do ppv both sides of the Atlantic,maybe even the likes of Poland and Russian Federation too.

Froch appeared on HBO in a hugely entertaining fight against Kessler,GGG everyone knows his story,fighting in Cali last out filling the place and having the Mexican fight fans appealing to his style also.

This fight is a ppv,lets hear your take ?

[Real Talk85]

I think you're being really unfair to Daniel Geale with that statement,GGG has called everyone at the weight out too,ok he hasn't beaten any A level guys,but Geale is most certainly B+ at worse,he recognised the threat in GGG vacated and fought numerous money fights before coming back full circle to face GGG having milked his career before its worth before putting himself back in the title hunt with a win over Fletcher.

Geale may have a few losses on his record but the Barker fight where he was relieved of his belt really was a questionable result,as was the Mundine loss,another split decision.a fight in which Barker had to summon the strength of the gods just to get off of the floor and limp abjectly over the line.a testament in itself to the legitimate power Geale carries at the weight,and further testament to the mettle of his opponent that night.because he chooses to box as opposed to loading up on his opponents should not detract from his standing amonsgt the hugher echelons of the divison.

GGG dealt with him expertly,never had Geale been dealt with in this manner previously and I don't expect to see him stopped in that manner again,unless of course for some unbeknown reason he moved up to 168 !

Geale is not B level he is C. He looks good against other C level fighters. Mundine is not B level, he has beaten no elite fighters.

There are no elite MW. The last was Sergio when he was healthy, and Pirog when he was healthy. All there is now is a crop of average guys fighting for leftovers.

The only good prospect in the division is Jacobs. A win over him would be better than anyone GGG has fought in his career.

[Rip Chudd]

Of course he's talking UK PPV, Froch vs Chavez will be lucky to do 200K in the states. I have no problem with Carl getting a last payday and then bowing out, but don't try to use the business excuse when talking of GGG, just say you don't want to fight him cause it's high risk. At least he knows he'd need a knockout to beat Ward, kinda sad hearing him say it though. I miss the Carl of a few years ago that wanted to take everyone on, not Carl "Money" Froch.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Further to this DIRK,I'm of the opinion Froch is desperate for a softer touch in Chavez and a Vegas bow as so that he is comparable to Calzaghe when his career is a wrap,I was reading a few chaptors of his book recently and some of the passages which struck me were a clear desperation to be ranked equally alongside Calzaghe,hence the crusade in pursuing Kessler into a rematch,so he could rematch and defeat him.

I'm not naive enough to believe money is not also one of the major deciding factors in all this,but between GGG and Chavez I know who I'd rather face if I was him and concerned overly with legacy,with the parallels drawn between myself and the Welshman from fans on message boards like NSB.

I still believe Froch is looking for the easier option.he can stand and box against Chavez too,his boxing skills are a little underrated,Chavez would make the guy look like Rigo if Froch elects to bix behind his jab like he did against Mikkel in fight 2.again adding to a potential win,he comes out appearing a better boxer and even more so comparable to Calzaghe,Im sure some would even then go onto as far as claim Carl should be ranked above the Welshman.

[Real Talk85]

Further to this DIRK,I'm of the opinion Froch is desperate for a softer touch in Chavez and a Vegas bow as so that he is comparable to Calzaghe when his career is a wrap,I was reading a few chaptors of his book recently and some of the passages which struck me were a clear desperation to be ranked equally alongside Calzaghe,hence the crusade in pursuing Kessler into a rematch,so he could rematch and defeat him.

I'm not naive enough to believe money is not also one of the major deciding factors in all this,but between GGG and Chavez I know who I'd rather face if I was him and concerned overly with legacy,with the parallels drawn between myself and the Welshman from fans on message boards like NSB.

I still believe Froch is looking for the easier option.he can stand and box against Chavez too,his boxing skills are a little underrated,Chavez would make the guy look like Rigo if Froch elects to bix behind his jab like he did against Mikkel in fight 2.again adding to a potential win,he comes out appearing a better boxer and even more so comparable to Calzaghe,Im sure some would even then go onto as far as claim Carl should be ranked above the Welshman.

Froch has no obligation whatsoever to fight GGG. If he wants to be a star he has to earn it. Froch did, Ward did, even Arthur Abraham did.

Instead of running his mouth Abel Sanchez and GGG should actually make some fights. Stop talking about who you want to fight and make some Damn fights already.

Stop trash talking fighters that have accomplished 10x more than GGG ever will and build yourself up. It's not their fault your resume is trash. Sergio Martinez never begged for a fight. He made his own name.

Fight Ward who actually wants to Fight you or shut the heck up.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Geale is not B level he is C. He looks good against other C level fighters. Mundine is not B level, he has beaten no elite fighters.

There are no elite MW. The last was Sergio when he was healthy, and Pirog when he was healthy. All there is now is a crop of average guys fighting for leftovers.

The only good prospect in the division is Jacobs. A win over him would be better than anyone GGG has fought in his career.

So therefore for beating numerous C level's makes him a C level himself,clearly defeating the likes of Mundine,Flether etc,even beating a fit and healthy Sturm coming off of the destruction of Zbik still constitutes he is a C level !

With statements like these you make it impossible to reason with,your needless elevation of Jacobs to who was stopped by Pirog in 5 and really hasn't any other remarkable or notable wins before of after the Jcobs win,please I've heard enough.

You obviously have a high opinion of Jacobs hence why you held Pirog in such high regard.i think you may find your faith and beliefs a little misplaced upon Jacobs career unfolding.

I rate Pirog myself and actually enjoy watching Jacobs box,yet I don't feel blinded by bias towards any certain or particular fighter bar maybe Klitschko who has ruthlessly dealt with all before him,mandatory,top ranked opponents and optional defences.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Froch has no obligation whatsoever to fight GGG. If he wants to be a star he has to earn it. Froch did, Ward did, even Arthur Abraham did.

Instead of running his mouth Abel Sanchez and GGG should actually make some fights. Stop talking about who you want to fight and make some Damn fights already.

Stop trash talking fighters that have accomplished 10x more than GGG ever will and build yourself up. It's not their fault your resume is trash. Sergio Martinez never begged for a fight. He made his own name.

Fight Ward who actually wants to Fight you or shut the heck up.

I don't actually disagree with the first two paragraphs.

You're right Froch has no obligations to anyone but himself and his family and does not have to adhere to any advisor in control of his career,he has built his own empire,on credible wins and close and competive til the end losses.

Their aren't many bigger fans of Sergio on the site than myself,I never felt GGG had earned or was due a shot at Sergio,and I recognised it really wouldn't have been the fight it could have been after the Murray loss,Sergio was way past his prime,his body was shot and holding him back at that stage.

Refer back to my comment on page four regarding Abel and the Kazakh.

I do feel GGG is on the periphery of a big fight and is deserving of a title shot at 160-168,though I do not expect to see him move up now Ward is back in acition.he really has **** himself in the foot.

Am I trash talking Froch,or are you implying GGG trash talks his potential opponents ? I felt I was on,y expressing an opinion,a valid one at that taking all into account.