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  • HeroBando
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    #201
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    The risk/reward can easily be assessed because Golovkin's people require a PPV model in order to satisfy their reward requirements for risking a fight with Ward.

    The PPV model is not available for the fight so they don't feel it's worth the risk. Tom Loeffler has said this. I mean how many times do we have to go over this? You're supposed to be a promoter.

    Recently Sergey Kovalev took quite short money to fight Bernard Hopkins in what could have been a bad style fight for him and it wasn't on PPV. It was a calculated risk and it paid off for him.

    So it's not impossible for Golovkin to fight Ward without PPV....they just aren't willing to take that risk. Once again, I'm fine with that. Just stop saying everyone is ducking this guy and he can't get big fights.
    Hey stubborn fcuk, Wards purse is the major expenditure here. You always seem to forget both guys need to get paid, a$$wipe

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      #202
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      you win, I give up. This conversation is pointless, and I feel like I've lost 25 IQ points just talking to you.
      Doesn't sound like you had 25 in the first place. What I said was perfectly true and you know that.

      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Hey stubborn fcuk, Wards purse is the major expenditure here. You always seem to forget both guys need to get paid, a$$wipe
      I just used a pretty decent example re: Hopkins-Kovalev. Hopkins got in excess of $3million for the fight. Kovalev got just over $1million. The fight was NOT on PPV.

      Golovkin's highest purse so far is $900k. With a similar model, he'd top that purse comfortably whilst Ward would also earn in excess of his highest payday.

      However, Golovkin's team aren't willing to take that kind of risk I'm afraid. As per Tom Loeffler's words, they need a PPV model to make the fight happen.

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        #203
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Doesn't sound like you had 25 in the first place. What I said was perfectly true and you know that.



        I just used a pretty decent example re: Hopkins-Kovalev. Hopkins got in excess of $3million for the fight. Kovalev got just over $1million. The fight was NOT on PPV.

        Golovkin's highest purse so far is $900k. With a similar model, he'd top that purse comfortably whilst Ward would also earn in excess of his highest payday.

        However, Golovkin's team aren't willing to take that kind of risk I'm afraid. As per Tom Loeffler's words, they need a PPV model to make the fight happen.
        Source for Hop Kov purse? Most commonly reported figure was 500k for Kov so youre likely making things up.

        I imagine Ggg would want 2m, same as for Chavez, and Ward 3m+. That doesnt happen off ppv.

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          #204
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Source for Hop Kov purse? Most commonly reported figure was 500k for Kov so youre likely making things up.

          I imagine Ggg would want 2m, same as for Chavez, and Ward 3m+. That doesnt happen off ppv.
          Kovalev 500k. Hopkins $1mln. (It was published, but I'll search again).

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            #205
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            Kovalev 500k. Hopkins $1mln. (It was published, but I'll search again).
            Thanks, that matches what I remember. Send a link if you find it. Shows this sad windup will latch onto any unreliable info to push his agenda

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              #206
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Source for Hop Kov purse? Most commonly reported figure was 500k for Kov so youre likely making things up.
              NEW YORK – Doubters question whether Sergey Kovalev has been properly prepared in his first 26 professional fights for the challenge he’ll encounter Saturday ni


              Kovalev purse reported as just over $1million by BoxingScene.

              Originally posted by HeroBando
              I imagine Ggg would want 2m, same as for Chavez, and Ward 3m+. That doesnt happen off ppv.
              Yes....GGG needs the fight to be on PPV to take the risk. That's what I've been saying.

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                #207
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Thanks, that matches what I remember. Send a link if you find it. Shows this sad windup will latch onto any unreliable info to push his agenda
                What agenda? I have said a million times that I have no problem with Golovkin's position.

                Ward is a risk his people are simply not willing to take right now and I completely understand that. Why can't you?

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-w...2-years--83935

                  Kovalev purse reported as just over $1million by BoxingScene.



                  Yes....GGG needs the fight to be on PPV to take the risk. That's what I've been saying.
                  Ok wheres the source for BHops 3m?

                  Ppv is necessary to meet BOTH fighters purse demands, ******. Wards are higher, yet he brings no money like Chavez, Froch. You have suggested its on team Ggg to make him an offer which is ridiculous and doesnt make financial sense, get it dumbfcuk?

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Ok wheres the source for BHops 3m?

                    Ppv is necessary to meet BOTH fighters purse demands, ******. Wards are higher, yet he brings no money like Chavez, Froch. You have suggested its on team Ggg to make him an offer which is ridiculous and doesnt make financial sense, get it dumbfcuk?
                    I said it's on both sides to be willing. So far I haven't heard Ward say that the fight doesn't make financial sense. Only one side are saying that and only one side are unwilling to negotiate. I never said its on anyone to make an offer. HBO put up the money and the it's on both sides to agree a split.

                    If GGG's team were willing to take a gamble, they'd take a low end of the purse like Kovalev did. They are clearly not willing to take that risk without PPV.

                    This debate has been long redundant. It's evident you won't allow your fanboy pride to admit that Andre Ward is too big a risk for Golovkin right now. I'm moving on.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I said it's on both sides to be willing. So far I haven't heard Ward say that the fight doesn't make financial sense. Only one side are saying that and only one side are unwilling to negotiate. I never said its on anyone to make an offer. HBO put up the money and the it's on both sides to agree a split.

                      If GGG's team were willing to take a gamble, they'd take a low end of the purse like Kovalev did. They are clearly not willing to take that risk without PPV.

                      This debate has been long redundant. It's evident you won't allow your fanboy pride to admit that Andre Ward is too big a risk for Golovkin right now. I'm moving on.
                      Again, wheres the link for Hopkins 3m purse? Pulled that out of your a$$? Dont move on without providing this lol.

                      Ward says hes A side and has never made an offer. Sounds like lack of interest.

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