Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin Has His Eye on Andy Lee's Title

[deanrw]

I guess none really but at least then he has the possibility of people thinking he may be an easier target at 168 than 160 because he is moving up in weight. At 160....I just don't see him being able to do much after a Lee win. He could fight N'Dam, Trout, or Saunders but I mean what do those fights do for him? Lemieux is the only meaningful fight at 160 imo because it would pit him against the only guy who can maybe match him on a power level. Cotto and Quillin will never set foot in a boxing ring with him so they are immediately off the board.

The 168 Division is not nearly as fruitful as people think. GGG's ONLY option is to stick around 160 and try to clean it up. 168 May wake up in another year, but right now it is in a deep sleep. I am surprised nobody can see how dead that division is right now, and it has been that way for a while.

[The Gambler1981]

Name me one fighter at 168, that he can fight, that he could sign to fight tomorrow. Just one. Don't ignore the politics. To make it simple, he has less guarantee's there.

What many in here do not see, is that the 168 division is now a dead division. Nothing is happening there. We got one guy who is either Willingly or Forced into a semi retirement, another guy (froch) with his ass already halfway out the door, and a few Haymon dudes that GGG cannot fight. That division, is now worse than 160. Just take a step back and look at it. It fizzled out. At least 160 is moving along and has signs of life, even if it is weak.

Name one fight at 160 that could take place that will actually get your juices flowing as a boxing fan. He is NEVER getting those fights at 160 at 168 he just might even if it requires effort on his part.

**** is not handed to a guy in boxing so Golovkin needs to do what it takes to make it, end of story he is not doing that.


So either you can see him rot or see him try a different route, up to you man.

[deanrw]

Name one fight at 160 that could take place that will actually get your juices flowing as a boxing fan. He is NEVER getting those fights at 160 at 168 he just might.


So either you can see him rot or see him try a different route, up to you man.

The one fight that would interest me is Canelo. It is possible to get made. There are couple fun fights that can be made, like Lemieux, possibly Lee. Politics has wrecked this sport. He has no real options at 160, but he at least has a reputation there. At 168 there is nothing for him there at all. He would have to jump to 175 right now, to get anything fruitful.

[Pain~Lucy]

Here we go with the protected and the he should fight Ward. I'd love to see him fight Ward but it's about time ppl accept reality. Legally Ward cannot sign up to fight ANYONE on any soil with a boxing governing body until his case is resolved. As far as protected...i'm still waiting on an example of him being protected. He's called out every champion in the division for over a year now (wish other champions did the same in every division) and all of them have given the deferred answer to fighting him. Just admit when you don't like a fighter and stop dancing around the truth.

this here, why cant you people get this, you guys are making yourself dumb and obviously just a ******ed hater

[The Gambler1981]

The one fight that would interest me is Canelo. It is possible to get made. There are couple fun fights that can be made, like Lemieux, possibly Lee. Politics has wrecked this sport. He has no real options at 160, but he at least has a reputation there. At 168 there is nothing for him there at all. He would have to jump to 175 right now, to get anything fruitful.

I don't think that fight is more likely than Ward and is at least 18-24 months away. Ward cold be less than a year away at the drop of a hat.

Lemiux's and Lees's are a dime a dozen and guys at 168 are their equals if not better. For example both Dirrells are far above both those men.


For a guy that is 33 Golovkin can't afford to be waiting around for something that might happen or might not. He needs to make things happen going to 168 is making something happen.

[deanrw]

I don't think that fight is more likely than Ward and is at least 18-24 months away. Ward cold be less than a year away at the drop of a hat.

Lemiux's and Lees's are a dime a dozen and guys at 168 are their equals if not better. For example both Dirrells are far above both those men.


For a guy that is 33 Golovkin can't afford to be waiting around for something that might happen or might not. He needs to make things happen going to 168 is making something happen.

Well Andre Dirrell is a great fight, but cannot be made. Same with his brother as politics will rear it's ugly head again. Hell options at 160 would even open up if he had access to Jacobs, and Quillin. At least that would buy time, but that also cannot happen unless purse bids are involved, and even they are not a guarantee anymore with Haymon at the helm. Ward is the only option, but nobody knows if that fight is even possible on any level.

[deanrw]

I don't think that fight is more likely than Ward and is at least 18-24 months away. Ward cold be less than a year away at the drop of a hat.

Lemiux's and Lees's are a dime a dozen and guys at 168 are their equals if not better. For example both Dirrells are far above both those men.


For a guy that is 33 Golovkin can't afford to be waiting around for something that might happen or might not. He needs to make things happen going to 168 is making something happen.

Yup very true, but he can still keep doing what he is doing now by trying to unify the belts. If we are lucky, the pressure on the other belt holders may pay off. If he moved to 168 now, who is he going to fight?

[The Gambler1981]

Yup very true, but he can still keep doing what he is doing now by trying to unify the belts. If we are lucky, the pressure on the other belt holders may pay off. If he moved to 168 now, who is he going to fight?

Well he can do whatever he wants it is his career and he doesn't have to move up.

Still I think given where he is doing the leg work to set up the Ward fight (moving to 168 for the same kind of fights he is getting at 160 really) to save time, so if he can win that fight he has time on the back end to do more with it. I don't think he is going to fight Ward in his first fight at 168 so the longer he waits around down there the longer it will take when Ward becomes an option.

Also if I am his team I want Ward ASAP preferably off his layoff if possible because that gives him his best chance. I think going to 168 sets up doing that fight real quick rather than letter Ward getting back to full power, because I don't think no matter what Golovkin is going to fight Ward out of the gate at 168 layoff or not.


If I thought he could easily get Canelo I might feel differently but I just can't see that happening in a timely fashion, which will only help the younger man.

[deanrw]

Well he can do whatever he wants it is his career and he doesn't have to move up.

Still I think given where he is doing the leg work to set up the Ward fight (moving to 168 for the same kind of fights he is getting at 160 really) to save time, so if he can win that fight he has time on the back end to do more with it. I don't think he is going to fight Ward in his first fight at 168 so the longer he waits around down there the longer it will take when Ward becomes an option.

Also if I am his team I want Ward ASAP preferably off his layoff if possible because that gives him his best chance. I think going to 168 sets up doing that fight real quick rather than letter Ward getting back to full power, because I don't think no matter what Golovkin is going to fight Ward out of the gate at 168 layoff or not.


If I thought he could easily get Canelo I might feel differently but I just can't see that happening in a timely fashion, which will only help the younger man.

Well he does have that interim 160 WBC belt now, which may turn out to be an ace in the hole for him, as long as the WBC stays determined on their current stance of forcing unification fights. At least it is something to hang on to. 168 does not even offer that.

[The Gambler1981]

Well he does have that interim 160 WBC belt now, which may turn out to be an ace in the hole for him, as long as the WBC stays determined on their current stance of forcing unification fights. At least it is something to hang on to. 168 does not even offer that.

If he can get Canelo staying at 160 is then worth it, but color me very skeptical of that especially in a timely fashion, and time is probably the biggest thing working against Golovkin.