A message to Al Haymon from Boxingscene's Chino Madonna

[mathed]

Aw man....can you imagine? Just that soundbite, than go back into hiding, Avon Barksdale-style.

Pretty much knocks Arum (and Oscar) on their ass.

lol, too funny. Been watching back to back to back to back Wire episodes all weekend. HBO is playing all 5 seasons digitally remastered.....needless to say, my DVR has been working overtime.

[jjbj2]

Weren't you berating dude for being pretentious? Nevermind...below is from the same post.



Below is from your second blog entry a couple of years ago I think.




Care to reconcile these 2 statements?

Leave him alone he is talking about Promoter i.e. Arum not Adviser The Great Al Haymon. Al Haymon is the future in his eyes and he is great for the sport of boxing. /s

[arraamis]

Leave him alone he is talking about Promoter i.e. Arum not Adviser The Great Al Haymon. Al Haymon is the future in his eyes and he is great for the sport of boxing. /s

I'm all for a challenge homie!!! and I also provided a comprehensive response to lefthook2daliva.

The future of boxing, BTW, lies in the hands of the fans -- If only they knew what to do with the power they have.

That is equivalent to the situation in the USA -- The REAL power is with the people not in the Govt. that rules the people. BUT, the people, collectively don't know how to wield the power they naturally possess.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Hymen did a great job with Berto and Broner. Million dollar paydays fighting bums when they were themselves bums.

[arraamis]

Leave him alone he is talking about Promoter i.e. Arum not Adviser The Great Al Haymon. Al Haymon is the future in his eyes and he is great for the sport of boxing. /s

Also, to add a final note .... Haymon is a product of the environment within boxing. It is what it is .......

Don't blame Haymon for playing the game better than others, blame the game being played.

[PAC-BOY]

Also, to add a final note .... Haymon is a product of the environment within boxing. It is what it is .......

Don't blame Haymon for playing the game better than others, blame the game being played.

[JJRod]

Best way to show disapproval for Al Haymon is to call Your cable company and cancel your subscription to showtime. or better yet refuse to watch crappy fights.
Once it affects the bottom line they'll start to listen to the fans again.

[lefthook2daliva]

Sure, no problem......

Firstly, I can appreciate that you may perceive a conflict between what I wrote in a blog, compared with what is written here, but let me explain the differences. And this also, goes to the huge misunderstanding my many on this forum in regards to who is legally allowed to stage fights. And that right lies exclusively with the Promoter!!

Haymon, cannot by law negotiate, nor can he stage\promote a fight between anyone. especially among those under his management. He may by law, counsel his clients into accepting or rejecting the card being promoted\presented by the Promoter, but he, as a manager is not allowed to put together boxing cards. That act has to be performed by a licensed Promoter in collaboration with sponsors, Network, Venues etc...

So, there is a distinct difference between what I stated in a blog regarding actions of a Promoter, and what I stated here regarding actions of a Manager\Adviser.

This factual difference is why guys should never compare for example, Haymon and Arum -- One is a Promoter and one is a Manager\Adviser of which only the Promoter is allowed by law to schedule and stage Boxing contests. Haymon can only advise his clients as to whether its a good idea to face one opponent or another. But ultimately, it is the Promoter who matches opponents and then he presents it to both the Network\Sponsors and Haymon, who then counsels his clients about the best move to make and whether the fight is advantageous to their goals and or objectives.

This sounds to me like a bunch of obfuscation that a lawyer (real or pretend) might indulge in, so I'm gonna' break it right down.

From the blog of yours I initially quoted:

but it ultimately robs the fans of the best match-ups

I interpret this to mean that the fans are entitled to the best match ups.

Which makes sense to me because every penny of revenue that is collected by anybody in any way associated with the sport is directly attributable to eyeballs. Those eyeballs reside in the heads of the fans. That's us.

This is from the post I initially quoted.

This has nothing to do with fans who for some bizarre reason, feel entitled to something.

This I interpret this to mean that we (the fans) are not entitled to the best match ups.

So which is it?

Are we (the fans that pay everybody that makes a dime off this sport) entitled to the best match ups?

Or not?

[Rpgboxen]

I want to see Maidana vs Bradley it's an interesting match up.

[arraamis]

This sounds to me like a bunch of obfuscation that a lawyer (real or pretend) might indulge in, so I'm gonna' break it right down.

From the blog of yours I initially quoted:



I interpret this to mean that the fans are entitled to the best match ups.

Which makes sense to me because every penny of revenue that is collected by anybody in any way associated with the sport is directly attributable to eyeballs. Those eyeballs reside in the heads of the fans. That's us.

This is from the post I initially quoted.



This I interpret this to mean that we (the fans) are not entitled to the best match ups.

So which is it?

Are we (the fans that pay everybody that makes a dime off this sport) entitled to the best match ups?

Or not?

Your intepretations should not out of habit be attributed to other's statements, of which you are clearly miscontruing out of contex.

"Your words not mine........

As stated, but in a subdued manner, you are not entitled to an explanation, nor are you entitled to anything in the way of communication from Haymon .... Period!!

Its not like you voted for him, or he was elected to a public serving office -- He's a boxing manager, who serves his clients. Whether that sits well with you or not, is of no consequence. Haymon serves his clients, and he works towards achieving their goals and or desires. This has nothing to do with fans who for some bizarre reason, feel entitled to something.

Why don't you try contacting Bill Belichek to see what his game plans are for the playoffs."

Clearly, when taken in the contex of the whole paragraph, it has the correct meaning, minus the appended distortion you added. If additional assistance is required, then as a statement of fact, Haymon serves his clients exclusively, with no expectations being extended to the fans. Therefore, no fan is entitled to anything from Haymon.

Hope that helps ........