Do you consider Marquez's KO Victory over Pacquiao...

[fcastro1]

Glancing blows? Both KD's were right in the button, wtf you talking about glancing blows, don't rewrite history to suit your agenda. If you want to talk su****ious KD's from glancing blows have a look at the first couple of Hatton knockdowns. Where did manny get all that power in his right hand from all of a sudden? Second damn knockdown hit him on the glove, which then hit his face.

If we're talking PED's and power/strength increases I think Manny is far more su****ious than Marquez.

He never showed that type of power in the featherweight division. Now at welterweight a 4o year old marquez can do things cotto or margarito can't do. Why can't you just accept the fact he appointed a ped cheat that ruined one sport and now showing signs of abuse. Why do you guys support a cheat.

[The Big Dunn]

He cheated, and without the steroids I'm fairly sure he would have been stopped because he was well on his way even with them.

I always thought you were a good poster despite us not always agreeing on things. Its sad to see you on the list of people who voted cheater.

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[JJRod]

I loved watching Marquez for years. Since his day at featherweight I was a huge fan of him and his brother Rafael.
However with the recent refusal to do OST testing, the sudden Acne on his body, the injuries, it's hard not to suspect he cheated.

[$Bullsfam$]

It'd be one thing if he never knocked anybody out before and then he started KOing people left and right, but this power didn't come out of nowhere. He stopped Diaz and Katsiditis at lightweight who are as tough as they come. He also has a good amount of stoppages in the lower weights. The only time he struggles to finish is if guys box with him. Manny got reckless and got caught.

It happens all the time. I don't know why Manny fan boys had to come up with this crazy theory. Their is no shame in losing to Marquez.

[OutClassed]

My favorite fighter? JMM isn't my favorite fighter lol.

you just defended blindly JMM for Peds use while the rest of the world knows wats going on and you said youre not a fan LOL, so wat are you?? "peeleft:

You support Pacman, a fighter accused of being on steroids himself at one point of his career. Hilarious that you and many other folks fail to realize is that the same fighter you defend blindly has been accused of PED abuse himself.

accused by Mayweathers who is known for discrediting pacquiao, Teddy Atlas(believes that any asians/small people dominating welterweight dvision are on peds) DLH(still bitter that time 2009 for his loss)

Personally I believe neither fighter has abused the substance but that's just me. It me not believing in JMM's alleged PED abuse makes me Pro PED.... Wouldn't you be ProPED yourself since Pacquiao is also an alleged juicer?

body acne for a 40 yr old+Memo heredia+new found power+refusing VADA on bradley fight+damage ligaments and still believe 100% hes not on peds ROFL :smileysex

if youre not against PEDS, youre a PRO Peds imao

Time to wake up fanboy, everywhere in boxing world suspects JMM is on Peds.. just enjoy tat KTFO6 everytime youre inside your comfort room rofl

its PAC VS. Floyd now, forget that piss drinker cheat

[The Big Dunn]

you just defended blindly JMM for Peds use while the rest of the world knows wats going on and you said youre not a fan LOL, so wat are you?? "peeleft:



accused by Mayweathers who is known for discrediting pacquiao, Teddy Atlas(believes that any asians/small people dominating welterweight dvision are on peds) DLH(still bitter that time 2009 for his loss)



body acne for a 40 yr old+Memo heredia+new found power+refusing VADA on bradley fight+damage ligaments and still believe 100% hes not on peds ROFL :smileysex

if youre not against PEDS, youre a PRO Peds imao

Time to wake up fanboy, everywhere in boxing world suspects JMM is on Peds.. just enjoy tat KTFO6 everytime youre inside your comfort room rofl

its PAC VS. Floyd now, forget that piss drinker cheat

Could you clarify "new found power"? I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

if Manny were to KO JMM in the 5th fight (if it happens) or if he had KO'd him in either of the 3 rematches, would you say Manny also had "new found power"?

[Elroy1]

Thread poll was unfair.

I selected it was an incredible victory that shall remain questioned, not because of roids, that's just a fact of pro boxing now.

But because it WAS a lucky punch to end it like that.

But I also think full credit to the legend for being able to do that.

[fcastro1]

It'd be one thing if he never knocked anybody out before and then he started KOing people left and right, but this power didn't come out of nowhere. He stopped Diaz and Katsiditis at lightweight who are as tough as they come. He also has a good amount of stoppages in the lower weights. The only time he struggles to finish is if guys box with him. Manny got reckless and got caught.

It happens all the time. I don't know why Manny fan boys had to come up with this crazy theory. Their is no shame in losing to Marquez.

How is it a crazy theory when you appoint this dude.
https://*************/watch?v=J1DU86uLHKw

Dudes injecting himself with peds. Then marquez looks bigger punching harder and showing acne at 40, a side affect of abuse. Are you guys serious about not putting him under su****ion.

[Dinamita 03]

He cheated, and without the steroids I'm fairly sure he would have been stopped because he was well on his way even with them.

Lmao at that last part. A little blood and you fools think Marquez was on his way out.

[cameltoe]

He never showed that type of power in the featherweight division. Now at welterweight a 4o year old marquez can do things cotto or margarito can't do. Why can't you just accept the fact he appointed a ped cheat that ruined one sport and now showing signs of abuse. Why do you guys support a cheat.

He did show power before. He has 40 knockouts. His nickname is Dynamita. Honestly just because your world starts and ends with Manny Pacquaio you make out like JMM was another Paulie before the 4th fight. This so called 'evidence' doesn't support your argument at all. Honestly it's embarrassing arguing on here sometimes.

Marquez might well have been on the gear, but your suggestion he never showed power before is wrong, plain and simple.

He can do things Cotto or Margarito couldn't do? Pacquiao was the one walking through these fighters! Jesus man. It wasn't JMM skipping weight divisions then KO'ing guys that had previously only been stopped by concrete gloves.

And can we leave all the lucky punch comments please, you know who you are. How can an intentional punch be lucky? Clutching at straws.