Do you consider Marquez's KO Victory over Pacquiao...

[Pago007]

*has made me believe that he's definitely on the juice. Too much red flags everywhere.
Asking for cutoff dates
refusing to accept USDA or VADA. FLOYD demanded it and said it was part of the contract. PAC just avoided it.
NEEDLES make him weak, cant train for 3 days :*

Usually when you train for mass and strength, you're speed and conditioning loses out. It's not the case with this new JMM. As Max Kellermen suggested, it's very suspect when a fighter seems to have gotten faster while putting on weight. Same as pacquiao

Red flags everywhere.

Him dancing arounding random testing for the floy fight really sealed the deal for me. Floyd was very vocal that pac was avoiding the tests. In my eyes, that cemented my belief. ...he's on some of ariza's and roach dirty substances.

[DeadLikeMe]

I don't think these threads will ever get old. War Dinamita! One of the greatest technicians we will ever get to witness.

[Pago007]

Yes JMm and atg smaller fight - beautiful combos - deft counter punching - distance control - heart - grit determination -

[The tucker]

I'm not really a pacquioa fan in fact I was cheering and yelling so loud when marquez did it.

But the acne,refusing to take drug testing with Bradley,and refusing manny a rematch after all that he gave him.

I really can not see how people can justify that win.

[Larry the boss]

full credit and beautiful ending to one of the greatest rivalries this sport has ever seen

[Larry the boss]

To many hypocrites on this board..Karma is really a beautiful thing

[fcastro1]

He did show power before. He has 40 knockouts. His nickname is Dynamita. Honestly just because your world starts and ends with Manny Pacquaio you make out like JMM was another Paulie before the 4th fight. This so called 'evidence' doesn't support your argument at all. Honestly it's embarrassing arguing on here sometimes.

Marquez might well have been on the gear, but your suggestion he never showed power before is wrong, plain and simple.

He can do things Cotto or Margarito couldn't do? Pacquiao was the one walking through these fighters! Jesus man. It wasn't JMM skipping weight divisions then KO'ing guys that had previously only been stopped by concrete gloves.

And can we leave all the lucky punch comments please, you know who you are. How can an intentional punch be lucky? Clutching at straws.

He couldn't kd pac in his prime division. He appoints memo and he's punching harder and looking bulkier at 40. Marquez isn't a real welterweight. Look at his physique when he fought Floyd. He was having wars at lightweight versus c level fighters and now he's rejuvenated with memo.

Pacquiao was weight drained at featherweight, his move up was a natural occurrence. Marquez is an old fighter moving up with a ped cheat. And showing signs with his body and performance that he is using.

[fcastro1]

There should be another option on the poll.
We don't care marquez is a cheat as long as he beat pacquiao.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pacquiao shouldn't have gone 3-4 years without more stringent testing, so full credit to Marquez. If anything it was Marquez who wanted to do randomized testing and Pacquiao was non responsive as per usual.

[Basco]

Legit win all the way! Anybody who dares to question Marquez's use of PEDs without questioning Pacquiao's running over everybody while coming up in weight is a hypocrit!