Do you consider Marquez's KO Victory over Pacquiao...

[OutClassed]

WTF @ the bold
Both JMM and Pacquiao are among my favourite boxers, what's your point? Oh let me guess… you are going to say that I'm not questioning the quality of the fight because I'm Mexican just like JMM next..



Same here. Love Pacquiao and I enjoy Floyd's events but their fans are worthless for the most part. I use their tears as lube while I beat off to their whiny posts and threads lol.

WTF dont turn this into racism LOL and i dont know your a mexican

you always sounds like you are a PRO-Ped usage especially if ur fav fighter has it ..

u cant blame me im always against PEDS users from Flyweight to Heavyweight

Smh he started working with memo since 2011 and beside pac had only "k.o" likar ramos which was sad. He didnt k.o pac3 or fedchenko if he had gotten him to juice why would he not k.o them at that time?? Marquez is as clean as pac how ever you wanna take it both passed the same test both had never failed a test. What do you mean by newly found power??? Do you know how he got the name dynamita? Yup from his power and unlike others he didnt fall inlove with it but instead became a creat counterpuncher who could ****. I belive he had more kos that pac had before the fight .

u forgot to mention wat he did to Mike Alvarado, 2x his size at 40 years of age

acne+Memo+new found power+refusing VADA+damage ligaments+New Muscle Size like a bodybuilder+Teddy Atlas "Eye Test" = JMM is a cheat

[Weebler I]

He cheated, and without the steroids I'm fairly sure he would have been stopped because he was well on his way even with them.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Perfect timing, mixed with some testosterone.

I had the first fight a draw, second fight I'll have to re-watch and Marquez clearly won the 3rd.....the 4th fight ending in a shocking KO (by either) was the perfect way to end the saga.

I believe both guys have used PED's at stages of their career, it is what it is.

[Aztekkas]

WTF dont turn this into racism LOL and i dont know your a mexican

you always sounds like you are a PRO-Ped usage especially if ur fav fighter has it ..

u cant blame me im always against PEDS users from Flyweight to Heavyweight




u forgot to mention wat he did to Mike Alvarado, 2x his size at 40 years of age

acne+Memo+new found power+refusing VADA+damage ligaments+New Muscle Size like a bodybuilder+Teddy Atlas "Eye Test" = JMM is a cheat

My favorite fighter? JMM isn't my favorite fighter lol. Pro PED? Wouldn't that put you in he same boat as me since you know... You support Pacman, a fighter accused of being on steroids himself at one point of his career. Hilarious that you and many other folks fail to realize is that the same fighter you defend blindly has been accused of PED abuse himself.

Personally I believe neither fighter has abused the substance but that's just me. It me not believing in JMM's alleged PED abuse makes me Pro PED.... Wouldn't you be ProPED yourself since Pacquiao is also an alleged juicer?

[cameltoe]

How many times did marquez perfectly timed a shot on pac in the featherweights? He did it loads of times but never came close to koing. Pac. Now at 40 and at welterweight he's knocking him down with glancing blows. Let's be real here. Marquez is a great fighter in the featherweights but let's be honest about his blatant cheating.

Glancing blows? Both KD's were right in the button, wtf you talking about glancing blows, don't rewrite history to suit your agenda. If you want to talk su****ious KD's from glancing blows have a look at the first couple of Hatton knockdowns. Where did manny get all that power in his right hand from all of a sudden? Second damn knockdown hit him on the glove, which then hit his face.

If we're talking PED's and power/strength increases I think Manny is far more su****ious than Marquez.

[Strategic1]

At the time of Pac-JMM4 and KO6, I didn't think much of the PED usage. I just remembered saying, wow,..JMM looks huge. Body transformation within 2 or months? Developing huge trap muscles in that amount of time doesn't seem possible. abs at 40? PED's could be a possibility but whatever.

EVERYTHING JMM Has done since then has made me believe that he's definitely on the juice. Too much red flags everywhere.

body acne
refusing to accept USDA or VADA. Bradley demanded it and said it was part of the contract. JMM just avoided it.
Joint pain/knee damage:

Usually when you train for mass and strength, you're speed and conditioning loses out. It's not the case with this new JMM. As Max Kellermen suggested, it's very suspect when a fighter seems to have gotten faster while putting on weight.

Red flags everywhere.

Him dancing arounding random testing for the Bradley fight really sealed the deal for me. Bradley was very vocal that JMM was avoiding the tests. In my eyes, that cemented my belief. ...he's on some of Memo's dirty substances.

[Nightfall]

A legitimate win for Marquez due to technique and incredible timing… or a chemically engineered, lucky right hand by a juiced up piss drinker?

I see it as an incredible KO victory to finally close the books on one of the sport's greatest rivalries between 2 legendary fighters.

The blatant disrespect towards Marquez seems to stem from this lone victory, so what is it? Is his win tainted and therefore a disgusting display of the dark side of boxing or is it a clear, clean cut and savage victory that served as a cold dish of Karma to seal off one of the most memorable series of the sport?

it sure as hell was'nt a lucky punch. experienced fighters don't throw lucky punches. expecially a counter puncher. thats what they are trained to do. and JMM is one of the greatest counter punchers in mexican boxing history.

[Rath]

it sure as hell was'nt a lucky punch. experienced fighters don't throw lucky punches. expecially a counter puncher. thats what they are trained to do. and JMM is one of the greatest counter punchers in mexican boxing history.

Pac himself on the interview about that said he don't believe in lucky punch.
he lost that's what it is.
That's boxing you win or you lose.

[NEETzsche]

even if marquez was juicing, his opponent was too so it's irrelevant. and anyone who thinks it was a lucky punch doesn't know **** about boxing.

[loui_ludwig]

A great KO clouded by the shady Memo.