Why do people talk about Kell Brook like he's an established force?

[LacedUp]

He was one of those saying Brook wouldn't fight Porter....

Yeah I would imagine that. The hurt is strong with this one.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm not saying Khan had it easy, no upbringing in boxing is easy and especially after bouncing back from a devastating 1st round KO defeat, he's obviously done very well.

I'm just not sure whether or not you earn a great promotional ride in the pros just because you were an excellent amateur. But it is granted that Khan would have more of a hype machine behind him. Look at Dylan White vs Anthony Joshua for example.

I think Brook definitely had an ankle injury, then Alexander pulled out with a torn bicep or whatever, and by that time Brook had been in straight training for so long that he couldn't fight. I think that was it. I don't for one second believe it had anything to do with Alexander at all.

I think he was offered $500k for a bradley fight in 2012 which included 2/3 options and co-promoting deals. Obviously doesn't make sense when you're scheduled to face a final eliminator just two months later and you're looking at a similar sort of purse for that as well as being a free agent. That was obviously before he got injured vs Alexander.

No, I'm definitely agreeing with Brook not being a consumate professional. Hopefully, this was the last time. But it's not just the stabbing, he's been drinking too much, missed weight, had to cut weight etc.

Probably all stems from the fact that he was brought up as that sort of fighter and not a fighter destined for world honours (promotionally). I mean, he didn't even get a nutritionist before after the Carson Jones fight. As big as Brook is, I mean, that's just ridiculous.

That's what I'm saying though. He has pissed a lot of his career away because of his own mistakes. Brook is not some underground fighter. He was certainly destined for world honours and promoted well enough under Warren to make a bigger impression than he did.

[LacedUp]

That's what I'm saying though. He has pissed a lot of his career away because of his own mistakes. Brook is not some underground fighter. He was certainly destined for world honours and promoted well enough under Warren to make a bigger impression than he did.

I don't think he was promoted that well under Frank Warren. I believe they had 24 fights together and the biggest name he fought was lovemore ndou. In a leisure centre.

I mean, Brook being dedicated or not, and he perhaps wasn't as much as he should be, I don't think that was sufficient enough for Brook's talent. but luckily, he signed with Eddie Hearn.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't think he was promoted that well under Frank Warren. I believe they had 24 fights together and the biggest name he fought was lovemore ndou. In a leisure centre.

I mean, Brook being dedicated or not, and he perhaps wasn't as much as he should be, I don't think that was sufficient enough for Brook's talent. but luckily, he signed with Eddie Hearn.

It was in his hometown where he headlined. Warren seemed to be ready to make him into a star but he jumped ship and then even under Heard, he took ages to reach the world title.

He also apparently turned down offers to fight Mike Jones and someone else whose name escapes me whilst with Warren so he had offers.

I was surprised with the temperament he showed against Porter because I always thought that would let him down despite his obvious talent.

[roxy]

Brook would beat Khan and I think Khan knows this.

[STREET CLEANER]

It wasn't us Brits talking about Porter beating Mayweather

Typical yank hype .

Now you making **** up. I have never said that.

[Larry the boss]

Well he did actually beat a ww champion

[KayDub]

No, just because the bogus sanctioning bodies have them ranked don't mean they are legit..

Legit contenders
Manny
Bradley
Marquez
Brook
Thurman
Khan
Porter
Maidana
Ghost
Devon

Do you even know what a contender is?!

Every one of those fighters are champions and ex champions. That's not what a contender is.

Plus I wouldn't put ghost with those names. I have a hard time with Devon and Marquez too. Marquez is too small to be considered a legit welter.

[alexguiness]

Do you even know what a contender is?!

Every one of those fighters are champions and ex champions. That's not what a contender is.

Plus I wouldn't put ghost with those names. I have a hard time with Devon and Marquez too. Marquez is too small to be considered a legit welter.

I think what he was trying to say a contender at 147...

Ghost, Thurman, and Khan have not held a legit belt at WW.

[Heavyfist]

Eff Brook. That fat monkey who pops PEDs to get into shape.

This the problem with boxing. Fighters like Froch and Brook, all PEDs and no skills.