Comments Thread For: Roach: Without Pacquiao, Mayweather's Legacy is Ruined

[jjsmyth87]

he has and beaten them all. what about your boy pacquiao. the top welters that he fought were either passed their prime or weight drained. GTFO.

Lol weigh drained??? Boxers drain weight themselves to gain an unfair advantage over there opponents not the other way around.... Manny keeps them a little honest with the 2 lb catchwrights he does sometimes.... Again he only does it sometimes and instead of the fighter having say a 15 lb advantage over him fight night the fighter will only have a 12 or 13 lb advantage, either way Manny fights at a huge weight disadvantage which makes his accomplishments that much more impressive

[woopwoop]

If the fight does not happen We can blame Mayweather Sr. Too He is always scaring Floyd, telling Floyd he is gonna get whooped (by Pacquiao), when Jr And Sr were fighting Sr yelled at Floyd "you're gonna get whooped!" He meant Floyd is gonna get whooped by Pacquiao!

One of the reasons why Floyd is scared to death of Pacquiao.








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[therealpugilist]

Amongst the Undefeateds, Marciano and Calzaghe have better legacies than Floyd jr. Even Calzaghe crossed the ocean and won over Hopkins. Floyd jr picked and dodged his way to an undefeated record. What makes it worse is how he will be remembered to have done eveything to avoid fighting Pacquiao . Bert Sugar has an unfavourable opinion of Floyd jr while showering Pacquiao with praises. Men like Sugar look at fighters from an historical perspective that will give you a true gauge how Pac and May will be seen 20 years from now. Even if Pac never gets the chance to fight Floyd his legacy as an ATG is in the bag.

Both Pacquaio and Mayweather will go down as legends, hall of famers, and great fighters whether they fight or not


yall be acting like TWILIGHT FANS TEAM JACOB OR TEAM WHOEVER AND SUCH


If you really think Calzaghe faced better comp than Mayweather or has a better resume or legacy then it just shows how completely shady and blind you are


Mayweather defeated more hall of famers than Calzaghe....more lineal titles.....more lineal title defenses....defeated more top ten contenders....beat more champions and titlist


Marciano LOL all his big wins were over past prime guys......Both Charles and Moore started at middleweight and were blown up lightheavyweights that happened to be p4p great fighters.....Walcott and Louis were damn near 40


***** PLEASE.....please explain to us know nothings how Joe Calzaghe and Marciano has a better resume than Mayweather when if you do your research the statistics, fighters, championships are all in favor of floyd

[LouIE G]

If the fight does not happen We can blame Mayweather Sr. Too He is always scaring Floyd, telling Floyd he is gonna get whooped (by Pacquiao), when Jr And Sr were fighting Sr yelled at Floyd "you're gonna get whooped!" He meant Floyd is gonna get whooped by Pacquiao!

That's why Floyd is scared to death of Pacquiao

^^^^^^^^^This is boxing knowledge from a poster who claims he has been watching boxing from the 70's and 80's , yet post's like a young immature pac fan!!! Again i don't see any substance from your post's just alot of hyping yourself to be a knowledgeable poster without a shred of proof to back it up... still waiting kid!!

[therealpugilist]

^^^^^^^^^This is boxing knowledge from a poster who claims he has been watching boxing from the 70's and 80's , yet post's like a young immature pac fan!!! Again i don't see any substance from your post's just alot of hyping yourself to be a knowledgeable poster without a shred of proof to back it up... still waiting kid!!

this thread has had some of the most substance-less posts ever



NOT ONE PACQUAIO FANATIC SUPPORTED THEIR POSITION WITH FACTS, SOURCES, RECORDS, OR ANYTHING JUST INSULTS AND THEIR OPINION

[StefanTosic]

@ MC Hammer

Speaking of peds, please can you explain what a **** Floyd was doing live on 24/7 camera before the Mosley fight, why he wanted to wait for 5 hours to take p1ss test?

Bonus question: Do you know in fact to cover up some type of peds on p1ss test, you should wait as long as possible before the p1ssing, for at least 4 hours so the the testosterone level drop the closer it is possible to the allowed ratio.

Fun fact #1: USADA allows 6:1 or 5:1 ratio, so it means you are allowed to have a testosterone (or whatever it is) level 5 or 6 times higher than normal.

Fun fact #2: VADA doesn't allow any other ratio beside 1:1.

[jjsmyth87]

Both Pacquaio and Mayweather will go down as legends, hall of famers, and great fighters whether they fight or not


yall be acting like TWILIGHT FANS TEAM JACOB OR TEAM WHOEVER AND SUCH


If you really think Calzaghe faced better comp than Mayweather or has a better resume or legacy then it just shows how completely shady and blind you are


Mayweather defeated more hall of famers than Calzaghe....more lineal titles.....more lineal title defenses....defeated more top ten contenders....beat more champions and titlist


Marciano LOL all his big wins were over past prime guys......Both Charles and Moore started at middleweight and were blown up lightheavyweights that happened to be p4p great fighters.....Walcott and Louis were damn near 40


***** PLEASE.....please explain to us know nothings how Joe Calzaghe and Marciano has a better resume than Mayweather when if you do your research the statistics, fighters, championships are all in favor of floyd

I would have to agree with you somewhat... Marciano fought all the best of his era and won but there are still some questions about mayweather like it or not. He can erase all doubts by fighting pacquiao nobody could ever say nothing about it again. Even if they try to say Pac was past his prime that's bs because Floyd has slowed down just as much and they are still the best 2 in the game. Calzaghe isn't as impressive, yes he was undefeated but his competition was much weaker. Roy Jones would have schooled him in his prime, although I'm not sure about Hopkins because Hopkins never really slowed down that much up to that point

[Gary Coleman]

Without Mayweather, Pacquiao will lose more of his assets to auction. True story.

Pacquiao challenged Mayweather to fight for charity but $40 million was a low ball offer? Which is it?

The media will do their usual blabbering, but they can't hide the truth. Pacquiao is just as if not MORE guilty for this fight not happening.

[Real Talk85]

I can garauntee that not only will Floyd be fine but if he does in fact retire undefeated no one will talk about Manny . He will be another guy not named Floyd.

No one talks about the b side. Frazier and foreman were two of the biggest heavyweights of their time, one of them beat Ali and yet unless your talking about Ali no one really brings them up.

It's the ones that lead the pack that stick and that is definitely Floyd.

Manny has done nothing that would make him more than just another ww not named Floyd.

All of his big name fights are retreads of Floyd's. He has no unique accomplishment that will keep him relevant. Floyd will retire with more champions beaten than any fighter ever, more title defenses than any ww, more championship fights, the two highest grossing fights, the highest defensive rating of all time, and the highest connect % of all time.

Outside of his trilogy with jmm Manny has done nothing of note. Not to mention how he will be criticized for his fight with margarito for that made up belt and refused to fight the real champ for the belt in Sergio Martinez. Yes they will bring that up, look at how they dissected Roy jones Hopkins 2, Leonard vs hagler, or Leonard vs Duran 2. Historians look at every aspect of big fights and Manny will suffer because all his big fights were against lesser versions of marquee fighters Floyd already beat.

His milestones and impact simply don't add up to anything Floyd has done.

[Real Talk85]

Another major factor in his legacy is that Floyd has fought damn near every major established ww and jmw of his era. When they retire no one will be able to mention them without talking about how they all lost to Floyd.